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    02-21-2010, 02:27 AM
  #1
Foal
Jumping horse doing dressage.

Heey! :)

So I bought a jumping horse in September 2009. He's 13 years old now, and he's been jumping all his life. The owners before me had no interest in dressage, so they didnt really practise it on him, they just rode jumping-dressage (which is different).

These last few months i've been really training him to relax and take his head down, as he always had his head completely up, and would not relax untill he was tired, which isnt a good thing, since I can't keep ridding him untill he's tired everyday..!

I've been working from the ground alot too. So here he is now ;) Please, do critique and comment..!

I DO realize I lean too much back when i'm doing sitting trot.. :/

SEPTEMBER 2009 - this is how we was with me in walk, trot and gallop! And he would not relax.


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    02-21-2010, 03:29 AM
  #2
Foal
He seems to be learning fast
     
    02-21-2010, 03:34 AM
  #3
Trained
He's looking far better well done!!!
Biggest thing I noticed critique wise was that you are riding 'backwards' with your hands. So you're pulling the reins back towards your torso, rather than riding your legs and seat towards your hands.

Try to carry your hands up and forward, and picture that you are riding your crutch up to meet your hands. It will help him to soften and it will be a much nicer picture.

Otherwise, looking good!
     
    02-21-2010, 06:38 PM
  #4
Foal
I know ur just concentrating on your horse, but make sure to keep your legs back - I noticed they kept sliding forward.
Otherwise I thought you looked great!!! He seems to be learning really fast:)
Beautiful Horse!
     
    02-21-2010, 07:50 PM
  #5
Banned
From the videos I have seen before and this one it appears the horse is just trying to do its best. It does not look to be a happy horse. The hands are still rigid and he is still stiff over the back. The riders legs are not steady

Your leg yield/half pass attemts shows this with the head going crooked ( the big problem with a horse with a blaze....easy to see crooked heads) on the first attempt, crooked on the others and pulling/holding the inside rein to pull the head in place in the last one.

The back up showed no softness or consideration that should be a part of a nicely trained horse, dressage or otherwise.

I would have liked to have seen the ONE rein release you gave to the horse as a reward near the end of the video to have been executed many many times throughout the entire ride but was dissappointed that it never came to be.
     
    02-21-2010, 07:51 PM
  #6
Foal
Very nice horse, he's come a long way. For keeping his head down, lower your hands and mabey start working towards a long and low. But I like his head frame however he does look like a coiled spring (very similar to my horse when she's hot)
Good luck! Hope this helped
     
    02-21-2010, 08:50 PM
  #7
Foal
I agree with Kayty, I have found that this happens when the rider feels the horse will take off but you need to soffen because you are pulling him under the bit if you feel unsafe start slow just give him a little rain by moving you hand forward evey second stride and if he's a good boy give it to him for two strides and so on, that way if his good your hand will be soft it wont take long for him to pick up on this, also lengthen your stirip if you only doing flat, this will let you get a depper seat witch will help carm him.
P.S goole working on the bit this will halp, may people don't know why we wont to work on the bit or what the posion rally is.
     
    02-22-2010, 02:10 AM
  #8
Foal
Thanks alot guys..)

Kayty: Yes I do have that problem, and I have to admit I don't find it comfortable either, and quite irritating.. :/ I do realize this though, and I am working on trying to bring my hand a little more forward. The only problem is, that then my contact loosens and he takes his head up, which means I have to give him longer reins, otherwise he flips out, which then leads him to speeding up, me pulling on the reins again to stop him up bringing them right back to my torso as instead of slowing down he lifts his neck/head... which is back at step one. :(

Spyder: I know its hard to see, but my contact is in fact ok soft and elastic. There are some times where I have to pull and harden a little bit, yes, where I feel he's running off, but otherwise I just move my fingers a little bit to soften it up, and keep it elastic. I was told not to let go of the reins or give him looser reins because that would mean that when I regain contact it will be "pulling" on his mouth, and since he can be afraid of the bit, it will only be more uncomfortable for him. I was told to hold a steady but light contact the whole time (which, again, I can't always keep because he starts running off -.- and I simply don't know what to do in that situation other than stop him with the reins). I try to make the reins longer sometimes (you can't see this in this videoclip, but I posted it in the other post) but he doesnt "follow the bit" down, he stays in the position and doesnt go more down with his head. And then he speeds up, which means again, I have to slow him down, which means that from a loose rein I'm have to pull on his mouth, let go, pull again, let go.. You see..? :/ Perhaps you could help me with that..?
     
    02-22-2010, 08:55 AM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Vicizmax    
but he doesnt "follow the bit" down, he stays in the position and doesnt go more down with his head. And then he speeds up, which means again, I have to slow him down, which means that from a loose rein I'm have to pull on his mouth, let go, pull again, let go.. You see..? :/ Perhaps you could help me with that..?
A horse will only "follow the bit down" if he is first working correctly through his back and underneath himself. Although your horse's head frame is nicer than it was, he is not actually working his body the way he should which is why his head flies up and he starts to take off the second you let up on contact.

You need to lengthen your stirrups a few holes, learn to keep your leg steady and underneath you, and stop leaning back so far. Your hands need to come forward a bit (you can shorten your reins a little bit to do this if necessary).

Although contact on the outside rein needs to be maintained (though elastic), a horse who is really listening and moving through his back will allow you to give with your inside rein and will not speed up or lose correct impulsion. Once you get your horse to this point, you will be able to give with both reins, inch by inch, and feel him drop his head and move himself into a longer, lower frame seeking contact. Throughout this whole thing contact on the outside rein does need to be maintained. You should only give your horse as much rein as he will take. No extra.
     
    02-22-2010, 09:39 AM
  #10
Weanling
I fully agree with xeventer17. But xeventer17 you have mono? Are you feeling ok? Sorry that that was off topic :).
     

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