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        10-25-2010, 05:40 PM
      #1
    Trained
    Jumping Video Critique?

    So this is from my lesson last night. I'm Riding one of the lesson horses as the big guy the girl in the brown is wearing is the horse I normally ride.
    I'm in the black on the black pony.

    These videos kind of made me want to hide under a rock. But here's what I see:

    A few times I was on the wrong lead.
    I have wonky wrists and need to bend my elbows and follow him to the jump.
    I need to just bend everything more.
    I think what was happening is when I wanted to fix my jumping ahead problem, I just started to stay upright over the fences...Which is a no no. Need to learn to fix that.
    Theres also a few hideous jumps in there but ill post them anyways.
    Thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up.

    Am I missing anything?
    Anything decent I'm doing?





         
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        10-25-2010, 05:45 PM
      #2
    Trained
    Oh. And my excuses ahead of time.

    I had ridden this horse once for 15 minutes before and this was the first time I rode rode him. I was having a difficult time keeping him in front of my leg and kept loosing his hind end behind me (and then jumping ahead for him as you saw). I think that may have caused some of the tenseness through my upper body. But its definitely something I need to work on regardles. And those stupid arms! They felt bent! My wrists didnt feel all disconnected! But I was wrong. Hmmpf =(
         
        10-25-2010, 06:05 PM
      #3
    Banned
    What I see (I just watched real quick...not much time) is that your lower leg needs some strengthening. Your knee is a little open and toes are out. I also think you have a little too much foot in your stirrup.

    You also didn't correct your diagonal when you switched directions trotting over the ground poles/flower box.

    You already know you aren't giving enough release... you need to slide your hands up his neck more and give a better crest release. Grab some mane if you need so you don't get left behind and hit him in his mouth.

    You also need to be more active in finding your distance... if you saw that longer spot on that crossrail you were having trouble with, close your leg and ask for it. Don't just sit there and think he'll take it. At that height it's not as big a deal, but I flipped over a bigger jump... I did ask for the long spot but not with a lot of confidence so the horse doubted and hung a leg.

    I don't have time right now to really watch more, but I will later and I'm sure others will give you more advice. :)
         
        10-25-2010, 06:11 PM
      #4
    Trained
    Any suggestions on finding distances? I've never been taught how to do that so I havent the slightest idea unless they tell me the # of strides to the fence. I don't know how to actually pick them.

    You're right. I did have too much foot in my stirrup last night. And although I normally have a strong lower leg, I started pinching with my knee a lot on him. Didn't see that right away in the video. Thanks!
         
        10-25-2010, 09:21 PM
      #5
    Trained
    He's behind your leg...a lot in that last video. He's barely getting there, popping the jumps and vaulting you off the saddle. Really march him up to those fences like you mean it. Once you get there, like other said release. If you keep hitting him in the mouth, he won't want to march up in the first place.
         
        10-25-2010, 09:30 PM
      #6
    Trained
    Yep, he was.
    I think I will ride him instead of my normal horse in my next lesson since he's such a total contrast to what I'm used to riding (They're normally very forward and I have to sit them back) and see if I can get him going forward and I can work on my release.

    I find it easier if I ride in a half seat the entire course, but I'm not sure if this correct so normally I sit between the fences (especially on some of my other rides). It normally forces me to pay more attention to my release and stay more flexible in my joints. Is this just a crutch or would it be appropriate for me to practice doing you think?
         
        10-25-2010, 09:42 PM
      #7
    Trained
    I can only say what works for my horse, who when trotting fences, will happily suck back and slow down on approach. Like you, releasing is a problem for me. I'm working on keeping my shoulders back and over my hips, but at the same time need a very large release since he has a long neck. The two things contradict each other, so I do what you do and stay in 2 point. I figure, if I'm already up there, all I have to manage is the release part. That being said, it's not effective on a horse who's behind the leg. When my horse suck back, I have to resume posting to get him marching again. Once I know the gas pedal has been established, then I go back to my cheat seat.

    One exercise I find works, is to get the horse trotting with a nice working posting trot. Establish the tempo YOU want, not him, and make him commit to it. Come up into half seat or 2 point, whichever you prefer and keep trotting. The moment the horse attempts to slow down the tempo you've established, go back to posting and bring him back up to speed. Use as much force as necessary but as little as possible. If you carry a crop, and need it, use it. You want him to speed up as soon as he feels you start to post. Eventually the moment he feels your weight shift back, he'll realize his mistake and resume his speed. It's worked great with my guy, but then he's extremely cooperative once he knows I mean business. Good luck.
         
        10-25-2010, 09:50 PM
      #8
    Trained
    Thanks :) I'll try that with him next time I ride.
         
        10-25-2010, 10:00 PM
      #9
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
    Yep, he was.
    I think I will ride him instead of my normal horse in my next lesson since he's such a total contrast to what I'm used to riding (They're normally very forward and I have to sit them back) and see if I can get him going forward and I can work on my release.

    I find it easier if I ride in a half seat the entire course, but I'm not sure if this correct so normally I sit between the fences (especially on some of my other rides). It normally forces me to pay more attention to my release and stay more flexible in my joints. Is this just a crutch or would it be appropriate for me to practice doing you think?

    As far as working on your eye... it just comes with time and practice. Can you go out and hack a horse outside of lessons? That will help a lot. I would ask my trainer to ride other horses and he would give me a list I could hack. If you can do that, I would work on sitting trot with stirrups, posting without... that will help your legs. Then set a single ground pole out and work on cantering over it. I was taught to start counting 1,2,1,2,1,2 once you round the corner towards the pole (or jump). You just count and practice getting a feel for the horse's stride and timing. Once you get a feel for it, try to count 1,2,1,2 and then count 3,2,1 when you are 3 strides out. I hope that makes sense... its hard for me to explain :)
    Once you get that feel for the horse's stride, and know how many strides out you are to the jump, you can start working on adjusting your horses stride to hit that perfect distance. You can collect your horses stride to fit another in if you see you are going to be pretty long, or see that you are going to be deep. Or you can close your leg if you want to leave out a half step (instead of chipping).
    This is hard for me to explain LOL Practice with a ground pole and you will get it. The more horses you practice on the better, also.

    Riding in a half seat is ok, but you usually need to sit in the middle of a line. And you will need to sit if you have to make an adjustment in your horses stride to a jump.
    As far as showing goes, your seat only matters in equitation. You can ride in a half seat in hunters, and you can in jumpers but I never do.
         
        10-25-2010, 10:05 PM
      #10
    Trained
    I can hack them out right now and I normally exercise some of her other horses for her. Once it snows and gets gross out though I'll be limited to arenas. I do quite a bit of stirrupless work but normally don't do much posting so I'll add that in there.

    She has me do exercises where for example (with stirrups) I'll sit two, rise three. Or sit three rise two. Things like that which tend to help me relax my joints more. (I used to grip with my thigh a lot and I'm working on relaxing that). So I'lll add them in.

    I think I understand what you're saying about finding your distances. I'll give it a go. Poncho (the pony Im riding) jumps directly from the base of the jump regardless which is something I'm used to so he'd actually probably be a good horse for me to practice on (so I don't start anticipating). Thanks!
         

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