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    07-09-2009, 08:27 AM
Looking for improvement - Hero on flat and first time jumping PIC HEAVY**

Okay not really his first time jumping but first time jumping something higher off the ground lol.. I think he did pretty good - he was scared of those tires!

For those who don't know Hero is a ottb 13 years old, he sat for 6 years I have a lot of weight/muscle to build up - I have been working with him for 3 months. I am a new horse owner so we both are learning and probably taking a lot longer in training then it should.

Just to recap my lesson a few weeks ago and some older photos...been working on tighter contact and getting leads correct- he is getting used to it


Today I think my position is approving,
**BTW he was being a bit naughty and was so foward today

Circles around the photographer (BF)

Cantering - on the right lead not throwing a fit!!
So pretty - not me lol


Jumping!! He was sloppy but I think my position looks decent for not jumping a horse in I dunno 8 years!

Just for fun my fiance got on (5'11 hero is 15.1)! Lol

Hates the wash stall but getting used to it as well

I know he needs more weight/muscle build up but he has improved greatly since I got him- His neck was ROCK hard underneath all the fat and muscle sat there its slowly building up the right way lol
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    07-09-2009, 09:46 AM
I don't have time for a full critique but I have to say, WOW. The improvement is amazing!
You two are looking so much better and look like an awesome team. Keep it up!
    07-09-2009, 11:34 AM
Thank you!
    07-09-2009, 11:49 AM
I also can't critique but he is super cute and you can definitely see some improvement!
    07-09-2009, 12:56 PM
WOW! You have improved so much! Here are some things that you still need to work on:
Getting your heels down. That will also come easier if you shorten your stirrups a hole or two. Put your weight onto your heel and really stretch down with them.
You have a slight chair seat, pull your lower leg back and hold it there. It will be painful at first, but after a few rides it will stop hurting.
LOOK UP! If you look down that's where your going to end up, I've learned that one the hard way, it's not fun. Haha.
You look a little tense, make sure your taking deep breaths and your relaxed. Your pretty pony (horse) will feed off of that and will start to listen to you more (not saying he isn't now).
Now that I look at the canter pictures, you really do need to shorten your stirrups. Bring them up two or three holes.
When you half seat the canter you don't need to come out of the saddle so far (I used to do it JUST like you are, which is OK). Don't worry about that one really, it's just helpful if your horse spooks, it can keep you from falling if you stay close.

I really like your jumping position and his too. Just a few touch ups and you guys could be doing hunters and placing well! :)
Again, push your heels down. I like that in the first jumping picture they are somewhat down, that has to be my favorite picture out of all of them. Shorten your stirrups a few holes.
You leg is swing back a bit. Try some two point work at the trot and canter and some no-stirrup work too. That will build your muscle up really fast. That will also keep you from over jumping.
I love, love, love your release. It's big, but that's good for an OTTB learning to jump.
And great job looking up and ahead! That's what I love to see in a rider :)

Overall you look good. Just a few things to touch up and you'll be a hunter.

Sorry for tearing apart your riding, just want to make sure I got everything. I love your horse by the way, super sute!
    07-09-2009, 01:56 PM
Originally Posted by eventerwannabe    
WOW! You have improved so much! Here are some things that you still need to work on:
Getting your heels down. That will also come easier if you shorten your stirrups a hole or two.

lol thanks! I just had a lesson and everyone said I needed to make them longer..
I think I just need to work on bringing my leg back I did notice that chair seat.

Throughout the years my seat has been all over and looking at these photos its so much better..
I used to lean forward hands in my lap,
Or hands high and stick my chest out and arch a huge curve in my back...now im somewhere in between lol!!

But yea ill work on bringing my legs back a bit on the flat I think thatll help point the toes higher...then put my stirrups up a whole during the jumping so they don't fall back
    07-09-2009, 10:01 PM
You have gotten some good advice so far. The biggest thing I see is that your horse isn't giving to the bit correctly.

Take a look at his confo pic. See how his neck looks upside down, with the underside much more muscled than the topline? This is because he isn't working correctly from behind, and raising his back.

If you see when he's being ridden, his neck once again looks braced against the bit, with a dip right in front of the withers. All his flexion is from the neck, not through his back. Furthermore, if you look at your hands, your hands are broken below the line from elbow to the bit. Your hands are too low, and your horse is being pulled onto the bit vs being ridden from back to front.
    07-09-2009, 10:43 PM
He was acting up that night he normally drops and bring in his hiney and usually no dip in the neck, he still has a long way I know - just starting out with this tighter contact he is getting better...so am I my hands used to be IN my lap (first pic)
I have a lot to work with - his neck was SUPER bad
    07-09-2009, 10:47 PM
Hehe. I don't know SQUAT about English, but can I just say that I adore the bright blue wraps?
    07-09-2009, 10:57 PM
Here is another pic showing his lack of weight and muscle

What I started with lol

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