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    10-30-2011, 12:11 PM
  #1
Yearling
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I'm looking for something to event with and do hunters and/or jumpers with. I also want something with a good brain that will be sane to take out on trails.

These are already started:
DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1722390 - Le Charme
DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1688137 - Abbey <I got a video sent from her owner and she is very level-headed on the courses and has completely smooth, automatic changes and is all around nice where training is concerned, but in the picture I was sent she is a bit downhill.
DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1734301 - T Beaus MK Colepepper
DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1714966 - Jacks Yellow Pip <He is the most laid back and trail-savvy, but his jumping leaves a little to be desired. But, I like his color and I could work on the jumping. Video of him: DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1731336 - UK Timmy Grey <owner wants me to come try him
DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1696888 - Bending The Rules <owner is willing to give him to me and worry about payments later AND put him on trial.. He's really cute and has potential, but his jumping manners are a little iffy.


Waiting to be started:
Gunnery Sergeant < REALLY like his face..
"Woody" <he's cute too :)

For the last two, I may be able to have them started by my old trainer, then finish them off myself.
     
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    10-30-2011, 12:18 PM
  #2
Weanling
I'm in Maryland too! I was recognizing these horses from my own horse shopping haha. Most of these horses I vetoed for myself because I want something with a little more training, so I can't quite help you here. Sorry!
     
    10-30-2011, 12:20 PM
  #3
Yearling
Yea, I'm looking for more of a prospect/project; something I can work with. :P If you come across anything for under 4k let me know! Haha and If you're looking for a made hunter/jumper, I've got something for sale ;D
     
    10-30-2011, 01:51 PM
  #4
Teen Forum Moderator
I'm only going to critique the horses with videos, since I really can't tell anything about the others.

Jack's Yellow Pipe is nice, but like you said- he appears to be more of a trail horse than a jumping prospect. I'm sure he could do some low level hunters with ease, but you'd have to really ask for any more. It looks like he tends to get lazy on some of the jumps and turns, only 'halfway' doing it. He dropped his pace atleast four times in the video, and did some pretty messy turns. This makes me think he'll need a strong, confident rider who can push him at one moment, and rate him the next. He tended to rush a few of those jumps, although that could be rider error. His overall form is nice enough though. He tucked well and cleared them all without doing any fancy 'hey look I can clearn this 2ft jump with 4ft to spare mom!' stuff, which makes me think he's probably level headed. This is another thing that would make him a nice trail horse. Overall he looks to have good, stocky conformation- and fair form. One problem that worried me though was his head thrusting. I'm not completely sure what was causing that.

Bending The Rules the first thing that bothered me is his owner's eagerness to get rid of him. I realize that she's a working college student, but a lot of times payment plans can get pretty hairy. He's definitely cute, like you said, but he was continuously dropping contact with his rider's hand. He form was nice when he was in contact though. The fact that he was ridden in a martingale when jumping and not with normal work also tells me that he's strong on the course, and the video seemed to agree with me. He rushed and didn't seem like the careful type at all, and he just sort of threw himself over the jumps. He has potential, yes, but I'd pass him up if you want him for trails and jumping specifically...unless he's an extra nice trail mount, which his description says nothing about.

Timmy Grey appears to have little formal training. His transitions are less than perfect. He does a lot of hard-to-sit trotting picking up the canter, but at the same time I think it has a lot to do with his rider. She isn't asking him to use himself properly, and is allowing him to go around as high as a girraffe when he's trotting, thus making a messy transition. However, his gaits look nice if you're willing to do a lot of flat work with him. His jump is beautiful for having just started. Very powerful and clean, which makes me think he could go far with the right training. My only worry is that he might get bored of small jumps if you don't keep things switched up, and it may get harder to activate his mind when you're riding. His attitude sounds great for what you're wanting though...good trail horse and a good prospect for jumping, and that's what you want. I like that the owners squared him up for conformation shots too. His conf is decent and over all very acceptable, although his pasterns look a bit long to me. I'd personally jump at the chance to go try him.

Let me just say that Gunnery Seargent is absolutely adorable though. Ofcourse, an unstarted horse is hard to judge prospect wise, but he's very flash and looks to have good conformation. And then again, unstarted means he's fresh and you don't have to clean up other people's mistakes so much.

And I might just be a TEENY bit biased about CANTER horses and OTTBs in general.... xD *pats Noah*
     
    10-30-2011, 02:08 PM
  #5
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Endiku    
I'm only going to critique the horses with videos, since I really can't tell anything about the others.

Jack's Yellow Pipe is nice, but like you said- he appears to be more of a trail horse than a jumping prospect. I'm sure he could do some low level hunters with ease, but you'd have to really ask for any more. It looks like he tends to get lazy on some of the jumps and turns, only 'halfway' doing it. He dropped his pace atleast four times in the video, and did some pretty messy turns. This makes me think he'll need a strong, confident rider who can push him at one moment, and rate him the next. He tended to rush a few of those jumps, although that could be rider error. His overall form is nice enough though. He tucked well and cleared them all without doing any fancy 'hey look I can clearn this 2ft jump with 4ft to spare mom!' stuff, which makes me think he's probably level headed. This is another thing that would make him a nice trail horse. Overall he looks to have good, stocky conformation- and fair form. One problem that worried me though was his head thrusting. I'm not completely sure what was causing that.

Bending The Rules the first thing that bothered me is his owner's eagerness to get rid of him. I realize that she's a working college student, but a lot of times payment plans can get pretty hairy. He's definitely cute, like you said, but he was continuously dropping contact with his rider's hand. He form was nice when he was in contact though. The fact that he was ridden in a martingale when jumping and not with normal work also tells me that he's strong on the course, and the video seemed to agree with me. He rushed and didn't seem like the careful type at all, and he just sort of threw himself over the jumps. He has potential, yes, but I'd pass him up if you want him for trails and jumping specifically...unless he's an extra nice trail mount, which his description says nothing about.

Timmy Grey appears to have little formal training. His transitions are less than perfect. He does a lot of hard-to-sit trotting picking up the canter, but at the same time I think it has a lot to do with his rider. She isn't asking him to use himself properly, and is allowing him to go around as high as a girraffe when he's trotting, thus making a messy transition. However, his gaits look nice if you're willing to do a lot of flat work with him. His jump is beautiful for having just started. Very powerful and clean, which makes me think he could go far with the right training. My only worry is that he might get bored of small jumps if you don't keep things switched up, and it may get harder to activate his mind when you're riding. His attitude sounds great for what you're wanting though...good trail horse and a good prospect for jumping, and that's what you want. I like that the owners squared him up for conformation shots too. His conf is decent and over all very acceptable, although his pasterns look a bit long to me. I'd personally jump at the chance to go try him.

Let me just say that Gunnery Seargent is absolutely adorable though. Ofcourse, an unstarted horse is hard to judge prospect wise, but he's very flash and looks to have good conformation. And then again, unstarted means he's fresh and you don't have to clean up other people's mistakes so much.

And I might just be a TEENY bit biased about CANTER horses and OTTBs in general.... xD *pats Noah*
I have to agree with everything you said about the palomino.
About Bending The Rules: She's eager to sell because she said she absolutely has no space for him. She said he has front shoes and needs light contact and he's bold to the fence. Has XC and jumping training as well as some dressage work.
UK Timmy Grey: I really think he's sooo cute and has a good brain and good potential. What I dislike, is that he has shoes on all four feet. :/ I think with proper riding he'd be really good, though. The head thrusting may have been caused from the rider or his teeth need done. They said he used to rush fences but doesn't anymore.
CanterUsa boys: The bay is uber cute, I really fell in love with him. But, he's completely fresh which would take a lot of time to work from, same with 'woody' the chestnut. Though, I do like that he's at least been started and never raced.

Overall, I think my favorites are Abbey, UK Timmy Grey, and the two Canter boys.
     
    10-30-2011, 02:37 PM
  #6
Teen Forum Moderator
Is there a certain reason that he has shoes on all four? If he has well-formed hooves and good legs, I would think that you could just pull them and get him in with a barefoot trimmer. He'll be tender for a while, but it will pass as his feet harden. Ofcourse, the longer he's been shoed, the longer it will take for him to get used to going barefoot. I honestly do like him though and think he has a lot of potential. You're absolutely right about the teeth though.

As for the CANTER boys, you're right. It would be a lot to take on, and it would take longer to get them in the direction of jumping.
     
    10-30-2011, 02:44 PM
  #7
Yearling
She said:
[quote]He does have shoes all around. He has really good feet, but I ride him out cross country on some pretty rocky trails[/quote.]
So, I could maybe see about taking him on trial and having my farrier look at him.. Idk. If I'm not going to be on too much rocky surfaces, maybe I could take off back shoes..? I'll ask the owner.
     
    10-30-2011, 02:54 PM
  #8
Teen Forum Moderator
I ride trails over gravel, water, stones, dirt, grass, and occasionally cement- all with a barefoot horse. If you get the right trimmer, and give the horse time to develope solid walls, I think he'd be fine.
     
    10-30-2011, 04:58 PM
  #9
Trained
There are 2 different trains of thought with the prospects you posted. There is the "dreamhorse" group, which are pretty well started, and you are paying for it, even though several most likely started in your second group, the OTTB group. You need to decide which group is for you. Only YOU can decide that. THe OTTB's are great, but you will not know what you have out on the trail until you try it. Most horses will be fine with miles. Yes, there are a few who are naturally spooky, but those are not ones you will most likely pick anyway, since you are looking for "quieter". Some depends upon the time and effort you want to put into it, and you have to be realistic with how much time you have to train a horse. Again-only you know that. THere are really only 2 in the group you posted that I would not think would fit your needs-the pally, who is lovely, and I am partial to QH's, but I think you would probably get frustrated trying to get the dressage part of eventing done on that one. I also would not even give a passing thought to the one OTTB who IS adorable, but has an old slab fracture. Different story if you were just trail riding, but the fact that you want to jump-no.

THis is certainly the time of year to buy the OTTB's. THe tracks are shutting down for the season. Shoot-a friend of mine got a drop dead gorgeous grey last week at Charlestown....FREE. Sound, nice prospect. She just went to help a friend pick up a horse, and was offered this one. SHe is also in MD, and has gotten 2 others at Camelot Auction, both of who, she has put a few miles on and resold.

I am currently in NY-the track here has a rescue as well as trainer listings. I am about 5-6 hours up rt 15 from you. Easy drive. Here is the site. Finger Lakes Thoroughbred Adoption Program Home THis is the main rescue site. In the column on the left are the trainer listings. There are MANY more horses there. I will also put the word out if you want. My friend and BO is sometimes offered them free at the end of the season, and many are really nice prospects. SHe has had hers for years, and another friend of ours got hers that way. Sometimes some go unlisted.......

I would also suggest you ask Star, or your trainer. She has been doing this a LONG time, and I regret her not helping me when I bought my last Hunter prospect. Now that I do reining I use my other resources for an extra eye (and an objective one).
GOod luck! Let us know what you find!
     
    10-30-2011, 07:49 PM
  #10
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by franknbeans    
There are 2 different trains of thought with the prospects you posted. There is the "dreamhorse" group, which are pretty well started, and you are paying for it, even though several most likely started in your second group, the OTTB group. You need to decide which group is for you. Only YOU can decide that. THe OTTB's are great, but you will not know what you have out on the trail until you try it. Most horses will be fine with miles. Yes, there are a few who are naturally spooky, but those are not ones you will most likely pick anyway, since you are looking for "quieter". Some depends upon the time and effort you want to put into it, and you have to be realistic with how much time you have to train a horse. Again-only you know that. THere are really only 2 in the group you posted that I would not think would fit your needs-the pally, who is lovely, and I am partial to QH's, but I think you would probably get frustrated trying to get the dressage part of eventing done on that one. I also would not even give a passing thought to the one OTTB who IS adorable, but has an old slab fracture. Different story if you were just trail riding, but the fact that you want to jump-no.

THis is certainly the time of year to buy the OTTB's. THe tracks are shutting down for the season. Shoot-a friend of mine got a drop dead gorgeous grey last week at Charlestown....FREE. Sound, nice prospect. She just went to help a friend pick up a horse, and was offered this one. SHe is also in MD, and has gotten 2 others at Camelot Auction, both of who, she has put a few miles on and resold.

I am currently in NY-the track here has a rescue as well as trainer listings. I am about 5-6 hours up rt 15 from you. Easy drive. Here is the site. Finger Lakes Thoroughbred Adoption Program Home THis is the main rescue site. In the column on the left are the trainer listings. There are MANY more horses there. I will also put the word out if you want. My friend and BO is sometimes offered them free at the end of the season, and many are really nice prospects. SHe has had hers for years, and another friend of ours got hers that way. Sometimes some go unlisted.......

I would also suggest you ask Star, or your trainer. She has been doing this a LONG time, and I regret her not helping me when I bought my last Hunter prospect. Now that I do reining I use my other resources for an extra eye (and an objective one).
GOod luck! Let us know what you find!
Yea, my draw back is time. I'm going to check out the pally just because he's closest (and it never hurts to look!) but I think my top two are down to Timmy and Abbey.. leaning more towards Timmy, though.
I will definitely ask Star, she's been a big help with getting my pony ridden and she said she'd put the word out about her getting sold, so maybe she'd help me when picking. I don't have a trainer at the moment, so she'd be the best bet for me.
My mom is completely disinterested in anything horse related, so any long drive is right out for her. Since most of the ones I'm looking at are in Pennsylvania, I'm probably going to have to ask a friend to drive up with me to see them. Le sigh~
     

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