And since when is "refined" the be-all and end-all of equine quality?
Last time I checked, Appaloosas were actually known to not be refined....a hallmark of their heritage that has nothing to do with their usefulness.
Not everyone breeds for "pretty."
Soundness, trainability, and athleticism go much, much further in my book.
You especially don't ride a head, and there's nothing so horrendously wrong with his neck that would interfere with the disciplines he was bred for (particularly since some of the muscling could be addressed with proper riding/training).
Not every horse needs to move (or should move) in a high-stepping, floaty way.
That's good for show and flash but not so good for actual using horses.
As I recall, he was only bred six times, and all of his offspring that I saw were very nicely conformed with good minds and good trainability. Unfortunately, they were in the same ownership situation,
so aside from basic breaking most of them never got much riding,
and they were allowed to get so obese that it really affected their movement and soundness.
The one son, my favorite, was purchased by the same people who took the stallion.
They started him at first to be a Civil War reenactment horse, and he was already in his first battle (and did quite well, by all accounts).
Now, instead, though, they say that he's too nice for that sort of work, and they're pushing him to start USEF showjumping.
He's quite a nice horse--again, with time and room,
I would have taken him, too, and done dressage and jumping!
Anyone considering breeding a stallion should 'prove' them with some kind of show record.
They can claim anything, the proof is in the pudding, RIGHT?
This guy has been a 'pasture stud',.., COMPLETELY UNPROVEN, other than your
My opinion, he's coarse and unrefined,...,
I'm not impressed!
And given that he's had NO actual use beyond standing in a pasture,
how well can anyone say that he held up well under USE??
According to you, he hasn't actually done anything
to prove that statement.
I don't have to like him because you do,..., and I've stated WHY I don't like him.
He's unproven, unused, basically his whole life, and coarse looking.
I complimented his legs, and he is proportioned well in 1/3rds.
Other than that, I'm not seeing, or hearing, it.
He isn't your stallion, so it shouldn't bother you, so personally,
what I think of him??