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post #81 of 119 Old 08-21-2011, 12:16 PM Thread Starter
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Bbf Magic Libra Appaloosa

Not exactly the world's best mover, but I wonder how he could have come along under saddle with training....
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post #82 of 119 Old 08-21-2011, 12:21 PM
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Always liked him Bubba.
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post #83 of 119 Old 08-21-2011, 02:50 PM
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Good looking horse, i'm surprised his feet are in such good condition. Too bad he was left to his own devices for so long. I would have loved to see how far he could go if he competed.
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Honestly, he looks like a great mover, whoever made that video should be shot. It's pretty difficult to take a horse that good looking and make him look that bad, but they did it with flying colors! Just that tiny ridiculous circle with stirrups flying and lines all over the place, of COURSE he's not going to look half as good as he is. I liked the pasture movement shots, until they spent half a minute filming him trotting the fence line at an awkward angle.

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post #85 of 119 Old 08-22-2011, 11:58 AM
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Honestly the video makes that horse look like a 'rough' mover.
He may be ok in a still shot, but a picture doesn't tell one thing about attitude, intelligence, or trainability.
Perhaps he was given away repeatedly because he wasn't trainable, or very easy to work with??
He's nice enough looking,..., but he's not knocking my socks off.
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Actually I don't think he was 'given away repeatedly'. From what I recall he'd been with the same owner for the majority (if not the entirety) of his life, and was only being rehomed as a result of that owner's death. Bubba had an extremely short time to rehome a large amount of horses, most being in pretty rough shape. It's too bad she didn't have more time to work with him, maybe he could have been made into something much more useful than a pasture stud.
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He wasn't given away repeatedly. He was only given away once, after his owner/breeder died. He did have a good attitude and temperament, and passed that on to his foals (and well as superior conformation), but being turned out alone for 10 years in a pasture with minimal handling, and almost no breeding or other horse interaction, will tend to make a stud a bit nuts. When I pulled him up to assess he was pretty wild-eyed and squealy at the mares in the next pasture--he thought he was going to rear up and charge to get them, but I made it pretty clear that that behavior, as well as kicking out in frustration, was not gonna fly. I worked him on the ground a bit and then did indeed climb aboard. He did not attempt to buck or bolt, but I could tell he was extremely green, and the fact that he had not been ridden in 13 years really showed. The mares were literally 10 feet away across a flimsy wooden fence, and calling to him, and his mind was far more on them than me, so we called a few little turns and a lap around the arena good. He would have required more time and money (for one, he was in desperate need of a tooth float, as he'd never had that done and in fact still had his wolf teeth) than anyone was willing to put out. Had I had room for another horse, I would have gotten him, gelded him, and finished his riding training.

After that initial session, though I never saddled or rode him again, he was far more agreeable on the ground, actually approaching me in the field for a treat or to be petted.

He was not a rough mover, nor was he a spectacular mover. He was what I would call a "working mover." If you watch him coming up the fence, you can see him winging his frong legs out. That's what I was referring to.

Edit: Aaaaand bubbles beats me by a lot, again. I take too long writing posts!
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post #88 of 119 Old 08-22-2011, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bubbleslove View Post
It's too bad she didn't have more time to work with him,
he could have been made into something much more useful than a pasture stud.
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Maybe?? An unused 'pasture stud' with very limited training, isn't much use at all.
He is still rather 'coarse' looking to me.
I don't care for his movement, and I'm not that crazy about his looks.
He has decent body confo,, and definitely has substance, strong & solid boned legs,..,
but I don't like his head and neck.

He looks coarse to me, not refined (at all).
And limited training, could well mean many things,..., difficult, etc.
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And since when is "refined" the be-all and end-all of equine quality? Last time I checked, Appaloosas were actually known to not be refined....a hallmark of their heritage that has nothing to do with their usefulness. Not everyone breeds for "pretty." Soundness, trainability, and athleticism go much, much further in my book. You especially don't ride a head, and there's nothing so horrendously wrong with his neck that would interfere with the disciplines he was bred for (particularly since some of the muscling could be addressed with proper riding/training). Not every horse needs to move (or should move) in a high-stepping, floaty way. That's good for show and flash but not so good for actual using horses.

As I recall, he was only bred six times, and all of his offspring that I saw were very nicely conformed with good minds and good trainability. Unfortunately, they were in the same ownership situation, so aside from basic breaking most of them never got much riding, and they were allowed to get so obese that it really affected their movement and soundness. The one son, my favorite, was purchased by the same people who took the stallion. They started him at first to be a Civil War reenactment horse, and he was already in his first battle (and did quite well, by all accounts). Now, instead, though, they say that he's too nice for that sort of work, and they're pushing him to start USEF showjumping. He's quite a nice horse--again, with time and room, I would have taken him, too, and done dressage and jumping!
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post #90 of 119 Old 08-22-2011, 12:36 PM
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Bbf Magic Libra Appaloosa

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Not exactly the world's best mover, but I wonder how he could have come along under saddle with training....
Nice to see a stallion being trained with out a bunch of chains and tie downs on him! pretty boy!

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