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My dream horse :O

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#1 ·
I've wanted a saddlebred gelding for so long - and this one is beautiful. I don't really like his bit-action but he moves nicely. I think some snaffle work would fix that evasion. He looks graceful and I love his color.

Trade-American Saddlebred Gelding

What do you guys think?
 
#8 ·
He is well bred and trained by a BNT. He is not too much. Horses like him run much more money.:wink: Depending on where the OP is, they could be rare. There arent many here, really. I had to get one brought in from Ky.
He is cheaper because he wont make a 'A' level ss horse, more a hunter, and he's a gelding.

I dont like the bit either, a snaffle should do him wonders. The rider isnt the trainer, at least not the one from heart to heart.
Here is the link to the training farm they refrence. Very well known. If he was a wb......no one would think he's too much.
Hart To Hart Stables - American Saddlebred Show Horses

Looks like a great dressage or jumping prospect. Those horses start way more too.
 
#4 ·
Snookeys, I do think $5,000 for what is essentially a greenbroke horse is far too much to ask. However, I'm not you, and you have to make your own decisions.

Just remember that Saddlebreds, like TBs, aren't hard to come by. We've no shortage of either one.
 
#5 ·
He looks like a nice enough horse, from what I see his training should actually detract from the price as it has certainly been detrimental to the horse, rather than improving him.

Also, I wonder about horses listed on Craigslist for $5,000. Craigslist is great for cheapies but if a horse is truly worth something then Craigslist is not the place to market it.

Lastly, I have questions about a professional trainer that is on the wrong diagonal. Just sayin.
 
#7 ·
I agree with the diagonal issue, also the reverse to the outside against the fence. Anyone who is a "professional" should know that you reverse to the inside.

I also think that 5K is too much, like you said he is behind the bit, and the shanks on that bit are huge, not sure what the bit looks like in the mouth (and Im an english rider so please excuse any incorrect information) but I always knew that the larger the shanks, the harsher the bit, I think for 5K you could get something that goes in a softer bit and is more trained.

Just my opinion, he does move very nicely though.
 
#9 ·
He's pretty, but I get the feeling that riding him would be like riding a broomstick. He's very narrow. He's way overpriced, too.
 
#10 ·
Wait a minute....your in KY. You have acess to extremely nice horses. I do have contacts with breeders down there. I can get you a very nice young horse, started for less. No BNT, but also well bred...I got my guy for $800.
His grand sire is WC First Night Out. She has several others...
Brown Horse Vertebrate Pasture Sorrel
 
#11 ·
He is OK but he wings in front at the trot (does not travel straight in front) and he has learned to be very over on the bit. He moves OK and I would like to see a slightly lower hock. He looks quite small for the breed.. and he would move a little better if the rider was on the correct diagonal.. and she gave him more rein. He is very flat in the croup which may make him difficult to collect (physically) and may be why he is on the forehand and over at the bit.

I would not pay $5k for this horse, but I am not the one looking to buy him.
 
#13 · (Edited by Moderator)
As for everyone else...

I like him because he moves nicely and is very tolerant of what appears to be an amateur rider. He isn't trained to be behind the bit - he is just held that way. He is trying to evade it, which is why his nose keeps popping out I'm sure... I would like to see a good rider walk/trot/canter him. I love saddlebreds, especially ones that have that color that he has.

As for him being overpriced, it's extremely irritating to hear people say horses are "a dime in a dozen". So you're telling me a horse that's had 90 days of professional training at a well-known stable, has good bloodlines, and is healthy and sound is a dime in a dozen? Gee, I'd love to live where you live. Around here, skinny horses with bad feet and moon-blindness are a dime in a dozen. I don't think he's overpriced at all. I also don't think he qualifies as "essentially green-broke". I think he is a nice horse.

I'm not planning on buying him or anything. He's in friggin Georgia. I should have just posted the info/video/pictures and left the price out, because I didn't want the horse to be judged in relation to his price.

Also to the person who said they got their SB from here in KY - there are several nice small SB stables close to me that have exceptional horses. Unfortunately I'm not a fan of the high-stepping eye-popping world that is saddle-seat, which is why I liked this guy (his head isn't in his rider's lap!).
 
#15 · (Edited)
As for everyone else...
I am definitely one of those 'everyone else'.

Sorry that you are offended by what I wrote. The thing is that this is in the critique section which means that the horse is evaluated in relation to all supporting information. In this case that included the price and the riding shown in the video.

I accept that the riding was done by an amateur and retract my statement regarding the professional training, I am sure they would not be too pleased to see their name used to market a horse in this manner.

Everything else aside, he looks like a nice horse.

ETA: Maybe next time you could stipulate the things you would NOT like commented on? Just a friendly suggestion.
 
#14 ·
Im the one that mentioned the horse I got from Ky. Its fine that you dont like my guy...hes not for sale.
But I know a ton of breeders, not all ss bred horses end up being good ss horses. Lots of them dont make the cut as saddleseat horses but, are great hunter or dressage horses.
I just mentioned it because you said it was your dream and I know where to find that dream horse for cheaper than that. Just as well bred and trained.
 
#18 ·
I never said I didn't like your guy... ?? I was talking about this version of the saddlebred:



I went to a saddlebred show once and the horses just seemed so... fake. I can't offer much more than an outsider's opinion because I've never participated in the discipline, but I showed a saddlebred in western pleasure of all things when I was in 4H. We did horribly, mind you, but I fell in love with the breed. Long and lanky, just like me! There was also an ex-show saddlebred gelding that I knew and he was possibly the most personable horse I've ever encountered. Those long ears and narrow faces with big eyes... I love them! Saddlebreds and thoroughbreds - Quite possibly my two favorite breeds!

I appreciate you telling me about the SB places. I've seen a lot on my local craigslist. They go from extremely cheap to outrageously expensive.
 
#16 ·
I'm not a saddle bred person by any means, but I do have to agree that really any horse (in my opinion-it's not the gospel) that has only been undersaddle for 8 months that's going for 5grand is a little much. I bought my first AQHA mare for 5500 and that mare was broke as can be. Not fancy by any means, but was a great first horse, had the patience of a saint, never refused a jump, never spooked, and had good manners.

If I was you, I'd find one that has more training and use my 5grand on it:) very cute horse though! I'll post my dream horse (fingers crossed.. I'm so in love with it that it's not even funny) soon:)!!
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#25 ·
Price is dependent on what somewhat is willing to pay. Where I am a $5,000 horse would not be considered an expensive horse by any means. TB can run you into the mid five figures and many warmbloods are in the six figures. I know nothing about saddlebreds, but it's kind of worthless to tell people that a horse isn't "worth" the money, since price is so dependent on the area and the specific horse.

Hunter thoroughbreds in this area sell for much more than what most people on this forum would consider they're "worth" because they are a "dime a dozen".

No critique on the horse for me. He's cute though.
 
#28 · (Edited by Moderator)
If you have no intention of even considering purchasing the horse, why did you ask for critiques of him? A critique takes everything into account, including price. So yes, it's relevant.

If all you wanted were people gushing over him, you should have posted this in the Pictures section of the forum, not the Critique.
 
#29 ·
Actually, I thought you specifically weren't ALLOWED to just randomly post other people's horses for critique. There seems to be some leeway in this for a horse someone is considering buying, but this OP clearly is not.

If you didn't want people's opinion on the horse, you should not have posted in in the critique section.

I think Sarahver's original post nailed it, on him.

He's pretty, but I see nothing about him that warrants a $5,000 price tag.
 
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