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post #11 of 32 Old 10-22-2012, 07:25 PM
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You guys look so much better! I think it was maybe a compromise. He figured out the canter a bit and you figured out how to ride it. Good job- that last circle looked great with the flexion :)

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post #12 of 32 Old 10-22-2012, 07:48 PM
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I just noticed this thread. I would say that for your first time riding him, the light , forward seat was perfectly appropriate. He is young and has little under saddle time, I guess. Sitting back on his back and tr4ying to force him to collect is not yet appropriate.

The second video looked better, however, what's with all the tail swishing? And he kind of seemed to not reach under himself as well as before? Are you certain that the saddle is a good fit?
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post #13 of 32 Old 10-22-2012, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
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He has been tail swishing and even throws bucks in from day one. The saddle fits him good, and he did all this with the trainers equipment too. He will do it in my English saddle too. When we first lunged him with a saddle he bucks like a bronk. But when you get on its more of a crow hop type buck. Trainer has a horse related to this one, and he bucks when he is fresh. Said it runs in the lines. He tail swishes whenever you ask anything like backing, turning. Trainer said he was "a lazy butthead who thinks he has things figured out, and wants to do it his way". He's come a long way since I bought him and had 30 days on him. Trainer did wonders. I noticed he bucks more in the direction to the right compared to left. I'm soon going to have a chiropractor come out and look at him. See if he has any discomfort. Trainer suggested it too, said he is much stiffer on one side.
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post #14 of 32 Old 10-22-2012, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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Ok here are more videos.
This is before we bought him. Different saddle. He sat all year and the people said he just needs a refresher. He was also extremely buddy sour. And his pasture buddies were calling for him. I apologize for my annoying voice on here..(they also threw a tomb thumb in his mouth when he wasn't used to it. He had been broke on a twisted wire snaffle)
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This was him about 2 weeks at the trainers. Another saddle as well.
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post #15 of 32 Old 10-22-2012, 08:51 PM
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first of all, he sure is cute!

But, that kind of swishing and crowhopping is often an indication of pain. I would love to see him move without a rider up top.

Nice horse.
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post #16 of 32 Old 10-23-2012, 05:23 AM Thread Starter
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I'll get one. I did talk to the man who broke him as a 2 year old and not sure about the tail swishing but know he bucked with a saddle. He said he bucked like hell when you first put it on and lunged him, nothing bad when you got on. I can say that he doesn't tail swish when riding at a relaxed walk trot & canter. It's when you start putting leg on him and asking more of him that he swishes away. In the updated lope video I was doing smaller circles, one thing that I noticed he fusses and bucks about loping smaller circles. I'm really hoping he's not in pain he's a 4 year old who hasn't done a whole lot. But I think I'm going to start looking for a chiropractorsfor him. If anything he will feel better.
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post #17 of 32 Old 10-23-2012, 06:17 AM Thread Starter
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Ok here is a video right after the "cowboy lope" at 6:51 yesterday where he was tail swishy. After I loped him my friend hopped on and loped him around the ring. She is just getting back into riding after selling her horses about 8 years ago, so she didn't ask for anything from him. No leg on him, no circles just a lope around the ring.

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post #18 of 32 Old 10-23-2012, 09:05 AM Thread Starter
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Ok sorry to swarm you all with videos. Lol I found this on my phone. He is in an English saddle free lunging. I did not mean to throw the lead rope at him I meant to swing it to push him forward from a buck and my horrible coordination between phone in hand and swinging rope I wound up accidentally chucking it at him which he didn't appreciate at all!!! Lol all well we learn as we age :)

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post #19 of 32 Old 10-28-2012, 06:32 PM
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Until recently, I have always owned QH's. I never had one that didn't have it in them to trot in such a manner that could jar your teeth out IF you didn't check them into that splended smooth "other" jog/trot. It is there, you just have to ask.

There is just as much horse sense as ever, but the horses have most of it.
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post #20 of 32 Old 11-03-2012, 11:59 AM Thread Starter
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LOl Thank you that gives me hope! I had his teeth floated 2 days ago and he was sharp but nothing else wrong. Nothing to make him fuss and buck. Haven't heard back from the chiro at all so I think I'm going with another one. Someone referred me to a woman who worked in MD and was a human chiropractor before she got into practice with horses. I've heard great things about her!
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