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        11-04-2013, 06:02 PM
      #81
    Showing
    Your upper body is so very stiff in all of the photos so you should work on loosening all of that up. You can keep it all together while still remaining soft. And agreed about too wide of hands. It's better to have them closer together !

    But lovely, really a very nice improvement!
         
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        11-04-2013, 06:24 PM
      #82
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    My main focus was getting that leg solid in the right spot - and from what I can gather, in the Lizzy pics, it's correct, so go me!
         
        11-06-2013, 06:29 PM
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    Rode Miss Squiggy today:





    I only have a couple good photos, because, as usual with her, I'm more concentrated on HER than myself
         
        11-09-2013, 03:47 PM
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    Excuse the horrendous no-stirrup work!
         
        11-10-2013, 02:39 PM
      #85
    Foal
    On squigy, I would say hand a little higher and thumbs on top (no puppy paws like 2nd photos). Also toes in , pointing forwards (not pointing out ) this will stop your calf gripping. At first it will feel unnatural but will eventually require no thought.

    Other horse (the video). He is being really lazy and needs to be sent forward, this will also help your posting feel/look less forced. Your legs are too far back, tipping you forward (though you could be tipping to forward so your legs are going back) which means you are posting more forward and less up and down. Potentially slightly shorter reins and really send him forward when he starts fussing and dropping behind the bit (just assuming a he!) as it is just going to dis-seat you and is an annoying habit.

    Overall nice quiet rides on both!
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        11-12-2013, 01:49 PM
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    Thank you :) yes, Lizzy is a lazy butt and needs a whole lot of leg to get her motoring and keep her motoring. Its HARD lol
         
        11-12-2013, 02:15 PM
      #87
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    HOwever, Lizzy looks like she might accept more rein contact, if it were offered in a steady manner, and she might round a bit, and then step under more, too.

    To do that, work at the walk. You post pretty well and your balance over your leg has improved a ton, so you have become a lot more independent there. But your elbow is still a bit straight, locked, and with a downward angle to the arm . It looks a bit like you are trying to pull her down, but in any case, the all important straight line from elbow, thorough wrist, to bit , is not there.

    Sit down, start at the walk and "find" her mouth. This can be done like this:

    Start with loose reins, just feeling her walk with your body and getting your seat and your following hips, which I know you can do very well. Then take your rein up a bit and move your hands out like you are forming a triangle to the bit , or , say, pushing a wheel barrow. When you make contact with the mouth, work on following it so that the rein never gets either tighter or looser. You'll have to move forward and backward. It's your shoulder that will be moving, but it helps to think of it more as your lower body goes forward, toward the "triangle" you have created, then back, then forward, then back. But the actual movement will occur in your shoulder and elbow. Whatever, just really feel the mouth and keep that steady contact. Your elbow can come away from your side, but do not have your hand pointing further down than at a direct line to the bit. Think of your thumbs as laser guns that must point directly AT the bit.

    When you are really following the horse's mouth, then you can walk your hands up the reins a bit (inch them up) to shorten the reins, and bring your elbows back in to your sides (the "triangle" becomes narrower). Do this all within the walking rythm of the horse. Don't loose the horse's mouth . And you can then be a bit firmer in your outside hand, and a tiny bit of a "tickle" on the inside rein, and the horse should flex to the inside and soften to your hand a bit. Now, ask for a bigger walk, get a few really active steps, stay with your big walking horse, then reward! Release the inside rein really big, like looping down, and praise your horse!

    Rinse and repeat.
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        11-13-2013, 12:27 AM
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    I will be sure to give that a try tomorrow! On about 3 horses if I have the time!

    It's a big contrast between Squiggs and Lizzy and it takes some time to figure out XD
         
        11-20-2013, 08:34 PM
      #89
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    HOwever, Lizzy looks like she might accept more rein contact, if it were offered in a steady manner, and she might round a bit, and then step under more, too.

    To do that, work at the walk. You post pretty well and your balance over your leg has improved a ton, so you have become a lot more independent there. But your elbow is still a bit straight, locked, and with a downward angle to the arm . It looks a bit like you are trying to pull her down, but in any case, the all important straight line from elbow, thorough wrist, to bit , is not there.

    Sit down, start at the walk and "find" her mouth. This can be done like this:

    Start with loose reins, just feeling her walk with your body and getting your seat and your following hips, which I know you can do very well. Then take your rein up a bit and move your hands out like you are forming a triangle to the bit , or , say, pushing a wheel barrow. When you make contact with the mouth, work on following it so that the rein never gets either tighter or looser. You'll have to move forward and backward. It's your shoulder that will be moving, but it helps to think of it more as your lower body goes forward, toward the "triangle" you have created, then back, then forward, then back. But the actual movement will occur in your shoulder and elbow. Whatever, just really feel the mouth and keep that steady contact. Your elbow can come away from your side, but do not have your hand pointing further down than at a direct line to the bit. Think of your thumbs as laser guns that must point directly AT the bit.

    When you are really following the horse's mouth, then you can walk your hands up the reins a bit (inch them up) to shorten the reins, and bring your elbows back in to your sides (the "triangle" becomes narrower). Do this all within the walking rythm of the horse. Don't loose the horse's mouth . And you can then be a bit firmer in your outside hand, and a tiny bit of a "tickle" on the inside rein, and the horse should flex to the inside and soften to your hand a bit. Now, ask for a bigger walk, get a few really active steps, stay with your big walking horse, then reward! Release the inside rein really big, like looping down, and praise your horse!

    Rinse and repeat.
    I just got in from absolutely freezing my butt off!

    I worked on this with Squiggs twice now - just at a walk in the snow. The first time was bareback for a little walk down to the solar cattle waterer to check if it was working and today I had the ambition to stick a saddle on her back after doing a bit of groundwork. I didnt do it on a bend, but rather just focusing on keeping her STRAIGHT as we were well... walking in a straight line. She is starting to get it. The first time, she would repetitively just drop WAY behind the vertical and be annoyed, so as a result, I would lose her mouth completely and have to start over.

    Today was a different story - only dropped BTV like a bad horsey once or twice. Other times, she just brought her head and neck down and was WAY more chill about doing it. I even squeaked a total of about 20 seconds of nearly long and low out of her as well when she rounded herself a bit and I just pushed with my seat a bit more and slid a bit of rein out and she wanted the contact. So yay.

    I put the thigh blocks back on my saddle too. I found they did help with trying to ride in a deeper seat.

    I'm going to try and ride again tomorrow and get a little video of us walking around in a winter not-so-wonderful land.
         
        11-20-2013, 08:55 PM
      #90
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by QHriderKE    
    Today was a different story - only dropped BTV like a bad horsey once or twice. Other times, she just brought her head and neck down and was WAY more chill about doing it. I even squeaked a total of about 20 seconds of nearly long and low out of her as well when she rounded herself a bit and I just pushed with my seat a bit more and slid a bit of rein out and she wanted the contact. So yay.

    I put the thigh blocks back on my saddle too. I found they did help with trying to ride in a deeper seat.

    I'm going to try and ride again tomorrow and get a little video of us walking around in a winter not-so-wonderful land.

    Awesome!!
         

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