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  • Hyperflexion of the pastern
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    02-16-2011, 11:53 PM
  #21
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Originally Posted by trIplEcrOwngIrl    
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I agree. We will see when I get some current pictures with him standing square.
     
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    02-17-2011, 12:08 AM
  #22
Green Broke
From the looks of it this one has a bit of a ewe neck. Which is going to cause problems with collection. Long pasterns is pretty much a normal trait for TBs these days, it puts them more at risk for stress related injuries. I like him better then the last one that's forsure.
     
    02-17-2011, 02:48 AM
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for chrissie I do NOT like the hyperflexion in the hind pasterns. Even the one that is not weight bearing is overflexed which could make him prone to injury.
Completely agree with you.

And a friendly nudge to the OP, what's with you and the pastern issue.
     
    02-17-2011, 03:35 AM
  #24
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    02-17-2011, 08:03 AM
  #25
Green Broke
You know, I see the hyperflexion and I agree that it isn't ideal. However, assessing pastern flexion when the horse is at a full gallop is tricky no? Sure it is almost touching the ground, I see that but the pasterns are shock absorbers, what could offer more physical shock than flying down the home straight?

Here are some photos for comparison, the first one is Secretariat, the second is Phar Lap. Both showing hyperflexion at that moment in their stride.

secretariat.jpg

phar lap.jpg

So I am not saying any of you are wrong, I guess I am just asking how accurately you can assess hyperflexion at a gallop? If he was doing that at a walk that would bother me, but the pasterns look reasonable in the first pic. Perhaps if he WASN'T doing that at a gallop, he would injure the joint.
     
    02-17-2011, 08:58 AM
  #26
Green Broke
I agree with Sarahver. When a horse is running at that speed they put a tremendous amount of weight on their legs with each stride. I don't know much about the horse racing industry but IMO itll be hard to find an race horse that doesn't experience atleast some hyperflexion during a race. Like I said TBs usually have longer pasterns, and like Sarahver pointed out pasterns are shock absorbers. They are meant to flex like that, perhaps to not such a degree to the point where the fetlock almost touches the ground. But what do you expect with a long pastern-ed horse running like that?
     
    02-17-2011, 10:01 AM
  #27
Green Broke
Have you looked at the Canter trainer listings? Of course, I don't know how far you'd be willing to go. They have some nice ones once in a while, and often for less than a thousand.

Personally, I really like the looks of this guy. He looked downhill in the first pic, but I think it's just the angle, as he looks level in the second one. They have his neck pulled a t a funny angle in the second picture though, so it's hard to get a good clean look at him. But he's also a little pricey, IMO. I didn't figure you'd be interested in him, but he was so cute, I wanted to share, lol.
PRICE REDUCED-Hulan
     
    02-17-2011, 10:25 AM
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Sarah - I agree on the pastern on the GROUND. Actually galloping, jumping, etc. you will and should see that flexion because that is the shock absorber as you had said.

Now look at the hyperflexion of the hind in the AIR! He's hyperflexing even when not weight bearing which is my concern. I say EEEPS to that!
     
    02-17-2011, 10:32 AM
  #29
Green Broke
Ha! I never thought to look at the one in the air, I assumed you were all talking about the one on the ground!
     
    02-17-2011, 10:35 AM
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Sarah - yeah weird right?! That's what caught my eye as a bad thing and potential issue. If it flexes like that blech.
     

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