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        09-29-2010, 08:10 AM
      #21
    Green Broke
    Do you realize how long four years is for a horse? Especially a horse who has been with several different families? You have NO right to assume the horse is like it was when you gave her away. You want to buy her, fine. But be prepared for a completely different horse. She's not a baby anymore.
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        09-29-2010, 08:20 AM
      #22
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by mbender    
    Alwaysbehind: Very good point and an eye opener to anyone. In the end it is her decision what she does and I have a feeling if her parents are considering, she will end up with this horse. As long as she is willing to stick with the consequences and long term outcome. I feel she has a deep desire to help out this animal and more power to her if she feels she can handle it. I just hope she stays safe and things work out in the end, that the horse can find a forever home and security.
    I think you missed my point. The OP is basically saying the people who bought and sold this mare were bad people because they did not provide the mare with a long term home. How dare they sell her, etc.

    But the OP sold the mare and is now wanting to sell her other horse to buy this one back.

    I have no problem with the OP's idea (other than I think she is living in a teenager induced black stallion world), I have an issue with her attitude towards the other people.
         
        09-29-2010, 08:32 AM
      #23
    Green Broke
    Oh no, I didnt misunderstand your point. I get that she thinks these people are bad because they are selling her and she did the same in the begining and wants to sell her other horse. She did express that she would like to keep her other horse and get this one back though. I was saying that your comment was an eye opener because I don't think she was thinking about her comment on these people being bad for selling her around and around and she simply wants to do the same. Your the only one that picked that up. I think you are right and yet she is young and would have to blame someone for not sticking with this horse. That's just the way teenagers think most of the time. And it isnt right to think that way but I hope she does realize what she was saying was wrong. I didnt even think of that until you said something. Like I said, an eye opener.
         
        09-29-2010, 09:03 AM
      #24
    Foal
    OP, I would like to know how you got into this position in the first place. Did you try "Hope" out before your parents purhased her? Why would you buy a horse not suitable for a beginner, let alone a green horse? Common sense should tell you to do otherwise.

    You are only 14. If you intend on being in the horse world for the long haul you have a lot to learn. Horses come and go. I know what it's like to want to buy back my first horse but I know she's in a good home with a little boy that loves her. However, I also know the frustraions that come with an inexperienced child owner owning a horse they cannot cotrol. My younger cousin has made the same mistake TWICE in buying the wrong horse.

    The horse she has now is a thoroughbred cross, and like your old horse is very "loving" and "willing". However, four months later she is no where near being able to ride him with any confidence. She is only a beginner. Mind you, this horse is not young. He is estimated to be 10 years old. She did not try the horse out before she bought him and is now stuck wanting another horse.

    In my honest opinion, I believe it would be a mistake to buy back your old horse. It doesn't matter how much you love her, what matters is that you have a horse that will work for you, not work you.
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        09-29-2010, 09:17 AM
      #25
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    Icey'sMom you made some very good points. Buying the right horse the first time sames lots of future heartaches.
    We bought my daughter a 16yr old horse when she was 8, she is also now 14. The horse taught her a lot and after she was ready to move up, Sport was able to become a husband horse (My husband was a new, new rider) At the age of 22 Sport still totes my husband through any terrain and does so safely.
    Sport is still a very loved horse and has earned his lifetime retirement in our home. He has only been in 3 homes his entire life and was with his previous home 14 years.

    The point of the story is when the right horse is the right purchase it can be the horse to last a lifetime.
         
        09-29-2010, 09:24 AM
      #26
    Foal
    I think you need to be very careful in this decision, because the worst situation to be in is to have a 'problem' horse you cannot deal with but cannot sell either because of it's issues. As much as you remember this horse having a nice nature there is obviously a reason you sold it in the first place or at least your parents did. Obviously no-one here can really be sure of how experienced or in-experienced you are or how suitable the horse may or may not be in real life but people have voiced their concerns so I think it is worth taking note of. In asking and opinion you of people you must be ready to hear the answer you don't want to as well as the one you do. As many people have said this could end up being a wonderful partnership but please consider the 'what if' is goes pear shaped. Obviously this is ultimately you and your parents decision but it may be a good idea to have a few rides on this horse before making and offer to see how she has changed over the years and also I would advise taking a trainer or knowledgable horse person with you who will be able to accurately assess how much schooling and training this horse will need and wither you have the skills to manage. Regardless best of luck.
         
        09-29-2010, 09:32 AM
      #27
    mls
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by horseluver50    
    I am kind of mad about the situation.
    We bought "hope" when she was 3 years old. We were just beginners and couldn't handle her very well. But she was extremely loving, one of the sweetest horses ever.

    I really want to buy her now! But, I can't afford another horse. Now that I have been riding alot longer, and am more experienced, I think I could handle her.

    I don't want her being sold a million times to a bunch of people, I think she should have a forever home with someone who will love her.

    What do you think?
    I don't really know what to do, sell my horse to get her? Don't get her?
    You were 10 years old. Your idea of sweet and loving at 10 is bascially any horse that snuffles you.

    You *think* you could handle her now.

    What do I think?

    *I think you were 10 and your folks burst your bubble.
    *I think you are unhappy with the soundness issues in your current horse.
    *I think you have a romantic fantasy of how life would be with Hope.

    If your folks are serious about giving Hope another shot - take an experienced trainer/instructor with you to look. Other wise in a couple of months we will be hearing "they ruined her . . . ".
         
        09-29-2010, 03:16 PM
      #28
    Foal
    ...you're attached, that's fine, but you have to realize what everyone else is saying is true. Four years is a long time (for you and for the horse) and you were only ten. What could you have possibly known about horses at the age of ten?

    I say if you are that interested in the horse go spend time with her now and see if you are just dreaming big or if you and this horse really are some perfect combo.

    Also, I like the point someone else made - you are talking about others selling 'your' horse but what about the horse you are talking about selling to get this horse? She is sore so she doesn't deserve a forever home?

    You cannot use emotions when you're dealing with that much money - what happens if you get her back and she isn't what you think? You're going to sit there with a horse you can't control?

    I'm not trying to be mean so please don't take it that way, but at least go and ride this horse before you even consider selling the horse you have now.
         
        09-29-2010, 07:21 PM
      #29
    Yearling
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    Her personality may very well not be the same.
    I don't think you can really "change" someone's personality. It's something that is naturally in them, whether it's deep down, or right on top.

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    But in your first post you said that she was sold because you were beginners with no experience.
    We were considered beginner riders, but we had been riding a couple years before. Now, yes I do have 7 years experience.

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    It has been 4 years since you bought this horse and several since she has been sold. At least long enough to breed, have a foal and have the foal weaned. She will not be the same horse you sold. She could be better or she could be worse but from the fact she has been passed around so much at such a young age is a tell tale sign imo.

    Good luck in your decision. I hope it is not one you regret.
    I know that she won't be the same. But, I still am considering it. We most likely won't be able to get her, because affording two horses would be pretty tough.
    Thank you.

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    Excuse me for being blunt but - You bought a horse, found it did not work for you and you sold it.

    You now have a different horse that you are thinking of selling for two reasons: 1. Because it is not sound enough for you and 2. Because you want to buy this other horse.

    So far your track record is not good when it comes to keeping horses. But you have your self looking down on the other people that have sold this horse that you sold because it did not work for you.

    Do you not see that you are being a little hypocritical?

    It is OK for you to sell a horse that is not working out for you, but it is not OK for others to sell a horse that you once owned, because it is not working out for them.


    I agree with the others. You do not have a clue what this mare is like now. Why not gather some real facts and form your decision using those.


    I didn't choose to sell her, but it was a good decision as we couldn't ride her anyways.
    I really don't want to sell the horse I have now. It's just that if she continues to be sore/lame, and I want to show, I will have to. But, I won't for a long time, I love her too much.

    I do know that it's not the new owners to blame. I just feel really bad for my old horse, and I want her to have a forever home with someone to love. I know that I have an attachment, and since it wasn't a proper selling of horse(parents told me they sold her the day she was gone), and it broke my heart.
    I blamed the people who got her for taking her, but I know that it wasn't their fault. And now when I hear she is moving all around, I feel so bad for her, and want her back.

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    If a person has this much of a passion and desire to help out a horse they once knew, I think they will be fine. Just be careful and it has been years so she may not be the same horse. I think I would feel the same way if a horse I once knew was bounced around from home to home. As long as you understand and it sounds like you do,,, that it may take a very long time before you are able to ride her and get her trust. Good luck and stay safe.
    Thank you! :)

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    Alwaysbehind: Very good point and an eye opener to anyone. In the end it is her decision what she does and I have a feeling if her parents are considering, she will end up with this horse. As long as she is willing to stick with the consequences and long term outcome. I feel she has a deep desire to help out this animal and more power to her if she feels she can handle it. I just hope she stays safe and things work out in the end, that the horse can find a forever home and security.
    It is a very small consideration, main factor is money, it would be pretty tough to afford two full size horses.
    Thanks!


         
        09-29-2010, 07:33 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    Quote:
    I think you missed my point. The OP is basically saying the people who bought and sold this mare were bad people because they did not provide the mare with a long term home. How dare they sell her, etc.

    But the OP sold the mare and is now wanting to sell her other horse to buy this one back.

    I have no problem with the OP's idea (other than I think she is living in a teenager induced black stallion world), I have an issue with her attitude towards the other people.
    I don't want to rewrite what I said in the previous post for me blaming the owners, so look up there. Hehe

    I am not going to sell my horse, I was going to possibly sell her if I wanted to go in higher competitions, since she can't be ridden alot. But, I am not at the moment, so we will be fine. I don't think I could handle selling her. But, at times I do think she would enjoy it to be with a family with kids who just rides every so often for pleasure.
    I feel I am working her to hard, and she isn't enjoying it that much.

    I am not in that world you think I am in, no where near it.
    You have to understand that when I was typing the first post, I had just seen the ad, and I was frustrated and upset because I just wanted her to stay with one person and enjoy her life. Now, I don't blame them, I just am considering getting her back.

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    OP, I would like to know how you got into this position in the first place. Did you try "Hope" out before your parents purhased her? Why would you buy a horse not suitable for a beginner, let alone a green horse? Common sense should tell you to do otherwise.
    No we didn't try her out because she was only 2 years old, and had little training. My parents got her for us for christmas, because as all first time buyers think "lets get a young horse, and it can grow up with our kids and it will be a dream come true" Our parents knew nothing of horses, and she was a beautiful, friendly horse, so they bought her for us.
    I was only 8 or 9, and obviously we knew nothing about getting a first horse.


    If we are considering buying her (she is a 13 hr drive away), we will go look at her, get them to ride her, I will ride her, check her over for soundness and health issues. And, if it seems like she will be alright to train and handle, then we will consider her.
         

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