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    07-31-2012, 08:25 AM
My Recent Jumping Picture

Well me and Slip have been getting better we now jump 85 cm each weekend and he over jumps less* so I can focus on getting better and not getting left behind or falling forward. This is only small but I think I have got a judge-able position here and Slip is jumping Ok and not over jumping. Slip was a green jumper a year Ago and his previous owner didn't have much confidence jumping, I have confidence jumping but because this is the tallest horse I've ever jumped this year I have nearly fallen a couple of times but now its all good because Slip doesn't over jump as much :) and our bond/trust has gotten better. I have been practicing Timing of my position, over smaller jumps so when we go larger I have some more experience. SLIP.jpg
I also always try to give him a release so I don't hurt his mouth as I land so let me know about my release please, jst every thing ok
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    07-31-2012, 10:41 AM
Okay, the reason you feel like you are getting left behind and slipping back sometimes is because you are gripping with your knee. When you grip with your knee, your leg slides back and you can't use it effectively. Work on your two-point position on the flat and ride without stirrups to help that. Also, try to grip with your entire leg, not your knee. I just looked again, and I think you need to put your stirrups up a hole or two. That will help your leg stay in place.

Because your leg slipped back, I think, you are "jumping ahead" with your butt too far out of the saddle. It needs to be raised above the saddle, but not out of it. Think about "folding" your hips over the jumps.

Your posture is good, and your release is pretty good too. You're looking straight ahead, which is great. After you work on your lower body position, you're going to have a great jump position!

As for your horse, he's not really snapping his legs up over the fences. His legs seem to hang. Try some gymnastic jumping exercises to get him to pick up his legs. Your horse seems bold and confident, just like you! :)

Happy riding, hope that helped!
    07-31-2012, 05:29 PM
Thank you that's was so helpful I do feel that I grip with my knees because I have nearly fallen by my leg sliping back yea I don't know why I ride with longer stirrups jumping but I just hate short stirrups looks like ill have to get used to it to help me with my leg position. I have tried jumping without stirrups in the arena a couple of times so ill do some more yh Slip is a bit new to jumping but we keep practising so he should get better at it, if it wasn't for him hardly ever refusing I would probably be nervous. That's so true he is very bold with me but wasn't with other owner because she was nervous to jump so when ppl said he spooks at jumps I have to tell them how good he is now.
    08-01-2012, 02:41 AM
It's kinda hard to see but in the picture because your reins kinda blend in with the martingale but it looks like your reins are slack instead of having a connection with his mouth in the release. When the reins are slack over jumps the tendency is for riders to snatch up contact on the reins upon landing which doesn't do the horse any favors. Strengthening your position will help avert this. It is also beneficial to have an instructor help you better coordinate your release over jumps.
    08-01-2012, 07:49 AM
I don't snatch my reins up because im confidant without hanging on my horses mouth.
I don't need any thing to hold onto with my hands so yh, even in my fail photos I can see upon landing and take off my horses mouth is not being pulled back. I am very aware of the bit and take extra precautions even when I fall of I straight away let go of the reins. I don't believe in this connection with the reins as id rather not interfere with his mouth over the jump, the only exception is when im riding English/dressage to have contact but off course not all the time and this is only to get him into a frame for dressage and because that is just how Modern dressage these days is, and how every one sees is the right way. But in time when people realise "massaging" and having a "connection" always with the horses mouth has nothing to do with getting a horse soft and light and learning from pressure and release because they always get used to this pressure and become hard mouthed, so I will not listen to your advice CanterClutz and this is why so theres my view and opinion on it. My horse has a lovely soft/responsive mouth and having any more connection than needed just makes him throw his head and become tense, I like to have hands with a release and hands that don't pull back his head or always put pressure against the corners of his mouth, roof of the mouth or squeeze the tongue back into the mouth he competes that's why he has a bit.
    08-01-2012, 08:01 AM
heres some more for you to judge Corazon Lock

    08-01-2012, 08:02 AM
Just so you get an idea on how I usually look (judge me more) and yh the grey pony jumping was from a year ago at a Horse riding camp.
    08-01-2012, 09:26 AM
The picture in the first post shows a faulty release and a weak position. I was merely stating what can go wrong when riders do not have a proper release and position established. The later pictures demonstrate improved release with better connection to the horse as well as a more balanced position overall. Connection does not mean having a horse in a "frame" with a million pounds of pressure in your hands. It is a means of communication with the horse which is soft yet guiding. You cannot advance in jumping if you do not have this established. It is good you are considerate about your horse's mouth and I'm sure he appreciates it but you do need to work on improving your release and strengthening your position to help him perform his best too.
    08-03-2012, 08:12 PM
I do a slip Release on my horse Slip because he is new to jumping and needs his head to balance, I can do a other releases but for now on my new horse I only do a Slip release.
    08-03-2012, 09:25 PM
In all of your photos your leg is slipping back. The later ones not as much as the first one. I like that you're looking up over the jumps.

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