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post #1 of 13 Old 05-06-2010, 06:09 PM Thread Starter
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I try to understand why has Cezar such a strange walk. I tried to find what can cause this, but I don't really have an explanation. I see only that his pasterns are very short and upright. Can this cause his funny walking? I'm asking only because I want to understand horse's conformation and out of curiosity. I don't think that I'm imagining things. I really think that his way of walking is a bit strange, and surely it's very uncomfortable. He has a very short stride and his trot it's very bouncing.

I don't have great conformational photos of him, but I hope that you can make an idea.

I will put a video with his walk, hope it will help.
He is the chestnut horse without the markings, or liver chestnut I guess.



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post #2 of 13 Old 05-06-2010, 07:00 PM
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He looks club footed, is he? That could probably contribute to it.

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I see either club feet, very short and upright pasterns, or short toes/high heels, probably a combo of all three.

I'm curious to read what the more experienced confo and hoof people think on this... he doesn't look too comfy walking.

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post #4 of 13 Old 05-06-2010, 09:09 PM
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I'd say a combination of upright conformation (pastern, club feet), perhaps with some sort of muscle and/or joint stiffness. He also looks eager to lead, which gives his step a little more jig in the video. Have you seen him at the trot? The trot usually makes movement issues easier to pick out.

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post #5 of 13 Old 05-07-2010, 03:30 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you all for the information. I don't know if he is club footed or not. I should take some picture with him in a proper position I guess. But I don't know when I will have the opportunity.

He is indeed very eager to led, I think that he is a proud cut horse because he shows a lot of stallion like behavior. When I led him at a walk he sometimes is trotting in place when he sees something interesting.

And about his trot, I will try to get a video with him when I'll see him. His trot has a very short stride, he takes a lot of tiny steps, he doesn't cover to much ground wile trotting. I heard that this is a so called jackhammer trot. His muscles seems stiff to me too.

Thanks, I never guessed that his upright pasterns will be a cause of his problem. I learn new things everyday.

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The walk just looks lateral. It is an impure gait, and can be caused by several things. He needs to walk with more umph and correct contact... that may help it. Could be back soreness, or tension. Some very nice dressage horses do this when the walk is collected incorrectly.

Looks like, to me, that it has nothing to do with the horses leg conformation or hooves at all.

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I don't know if it has anything to do with his hooves either, but they are extremely upright and high in the heel. This could be why he appears to be upright in the pasterns. I'd find a good barefoot trimmer.. *bet nobody thought I'd say that. LOL*

Truely, his heels are way high.

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It looks to me like he is sore. That could be from how his feet and pasterns are angled. He appears to be club footed to some extent on all 4 feet though that could also be due to his feet needing trimmed at a better angle.

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I don't know if it has anything to do with his hooves either, but they are extremely upright and high in the heel. This could be why he appears to be upright in the pasterns. I'd find a good barefoot trimmer.. *bet nobody thought I'd say that. LOL*

Truely, his heels are way high.
We don't really have barefoot trimmers around here. He had his feet done yesterday, with shoes on the front feet and barefoot in the back. I will take some pictures tomorrow. Unfortunately I don't think that the farrier changed the angle of the hoof.
But thank you for the input , really appreciate it.

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It looks to me like he is sore. That could be from how his feet and pasterns are angled. He appears to be club footed to some extent on all 4 feet though that could also be due to his feet needing trimmed at a better angle.
That could be a good explanation. I know this horse for over an year and he was always the same, he had the same walk. The farrier is very good, or at least the other horses had no problem with the feet. But I guess that the farrier kept the angle of the hoof unchanged all this time. I will give him an idea next time to trim his feet differently. The only thing is that I don't really trust those farriers. Meaning that the farriers from here doesn't have a training or school for their job. They learn from the others so I don't know how knowledged they are.

Thank you a lot. I will try to take some more photos tomorrow because he was trimmed yesterday and shoed in the front. He had some problem with the hoof because he was kept barefoot all the winter.

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I don't know how to test him to see if he's sore or not. Someone told me that he could be taught to walk differently, like making him to trot with an extended stride. He doesn't have problems with the canter or gallop, only with the walk and trot.
Thank you for the input.

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