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    06-26-2011, 11:35 PM
new Welsh Pony, critique her pls

Hi everyone, I'm new here,
I purchased this young ?5 y.o.? Welsh pony mare from a dealer two days ago. I think she's 13hh but I have not measured. She is the sweetest, bravest, funniest thing and we love her to bits already.

Questions for you experts!

1. Is she pure Welsh do you think (like a section B)
2. What do you call that color? A dapple grey who didn't get dapples? People have called her silver? Will she turn pure white? Are her feathers brown because that's left over form her baby color? What about her white throat?
3. Conformation? Any probs?
4. If I took a picture of her teeth would you be able to tell her age prescisely? Her teeth look babyish to me but I am no expert.

P.S. Her feet look weird because she was trimmed down from "slippers" apparently. I think she'll be fine once I pull the shoes and have her trimmed naturally.
Thank you! :)
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    06-27-2011, 01:47 AM
She looks pure to me. She is absolutely stunning!!!!! I think she is a very nice representative of the wonderful breed. Super nicely built.

Silver. I like the sound of that. Feathers could be dark just because of their more frequent exposure to dirt, feces or urine.

She is a doll!
    06-27-2011, 04:04 AM
Hi, silverpony!

Your new pony is lovely!

1. Is she pure Welsh do you think (like a section B) Could be!
2. What do you call that color? A dapple grey who didn't get dapples? People have called her silver? Will she turn pure white? Are her feathers brown because that's left over form her baby color? What about her white throat? Yes, she will gray out as she gets older and eventually turn white. Most greys are whiter on the face or gray out sooner on the face. I would call her steel grey, but I am not a color expert. The feather on three of her legs are dark because the hair on those legs is dark; the feather on the white leg is white.
3. Conformation? Any probs? She has a lovely shoulder and neck, should be a nice mover. Also a lovely refined head. She is higher at the point of her croup than her withers, which makes her built slightly downhill. Her quarters are a little short from point of hip to point of stifle, and underdeveloped. Some of that is because of her age and will improve with time. Her short quarter, combined with the light feather, make me suspect she may have some Arab blood and may even be an Arabian cross.
4. If I took a picture of her teeth would you be able to tell her age prescisely? Her teeth look babyish to me but I am no expert.

I can only give you an educated guess, but I'll bet someone on the forum can do better than that. Go ahead and post photos.

She looks like a sweetheart. Enjoy her!
    06-27-2011, 05:34 AM
This is a beautiful pony!
    06-27-2011, 08:44 AM
No crit, I think maura gave excellent info. Just wanted to say I think she's an adorable pony!
    06-27-2011, 10:19 AM
Thanks Horse forum girls! I got her on a "feeling" that she was special over any other full sized horses I looked at, and she was super cheap and the dealer was honest so I took the plunge! I feel better now that no one said she's got some major problem and she may be full Welsh.
I'll see about pics of her teeth, that should be an interesting photo session lol
    06-27-2011, 10:19 AM
Good legs, nice length of rein, beautiful head on her, and she has a lovely arch to her neck. Yes, a little bum high - if she is indeed a baby as you suspect she may even out. She is maybe a tad bit straight in the back (I like a little bit more curve than that, but both of mine have quite straight backs so in my eyes it's an acceptable 'fault', just makes saddle fitting a little trickier - thankfully most pony saddles are straighter treed so you shouldn't have too much trouble) and yes, small in the hindquarter (will even out a bit with work and maturity). She is also perhaps a tad long in the back. Overall she is a nice pony with a couple of minor faults with her conformation - what horse is perfect? Legs are VITAL, she doesn't look like she has any major flaws there. The most serious fault I can see is the small hindquarter - the hindquarter being the driving force of forward movement, you want it to be as strong as possible - but as was said that may well even out with more work and maturity.
    06-27-2011, 10:32 AM
So perhaps she IS younger than 5...or barely 5...hmmm...and that's why her body looks like it does, this makes sense
She's also *whispers* fat, so maybe that's why she has no curve or withers? Idk
Thank youuuuu Maura and blue eyed pony especially, this is great info that I have no other way of getting!
    06-27-2011, 10:56 AM
I had a pony that got straighter as he lost weight, and a horse that got more curve as the same happened. No withers and being fat is neither mutually exclusive nor mutually inclusive. Fat can decrease the appearance of a wither the same as lack of topline can make a large/medium wither appear larger. However, some horses and ponies just have no withers AT ALL - my little welsh that I sadly sold a couple of months ago was one such pony, in very hard work (2+ hours EVERY day and he would be dripping with sweat by the end of every ride) - he was only just staying at nice body condition and we were only giving him his suppliments, grass hay, and grass (he used to eat the suppliments straight out of your hand) - and he had no wither no matter what. Tough little blighters, these Welshies. Bred to go all day and they can (and quite often do, if they're school ponies) manage just that.

I would have an equine dentist look at her teeth if you can, that's really the most reliable you're going to get. The equine dentist will know EVERY little marker of age as they will have been trained to look for these things - we don't necessarily know what to look for. I can tell between a young horse and an old one, which is helpful if you have a horse with a brand (you can tell if it's 6 or 16 pretty easily) but if you don't have that definite she IS either this or that, then it's hard to know for sure.

I won't pretend to be an expert but I see a lovely pony there that I would love to have - and I hate managing ponies!!
    06-27-2011, 12:54 PM
Thanks blue eyed pony, great info and great to know you own Welshies and think she's lovely! I actually had to Google Welsh ponies, how sad is that ? Lol (my other horse is a now 100% retired 17.1 OTTB)
I hear the pony got a full vetting with x-rays and breathing test etc. from an investment buyer, who then had to back out because they were buying too many horses and overspent. I don't have the vet report of course but she passed everything so that saved me hundreds of dollars.
This will be quite the learning adventure for me, my daughter, and the pony. I'm thinking of trying some natural horsemanship stuff as I've not tried it before and I was watching my daughter play made up games with the pony at liberty, they both had such fun and the pony even will follow over jumps. I don't know. Right now I don't even have a thread of tack that will fit her so we haven't even ridden her. I hear she grew up on a sprawling ranch being ridden all over the countryside by kids and will jump any obstacle and trek out alone but no real arena work *sigh* So I'll have to remember how to start at the very beginning with the A B C's!! Ack!

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