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        02-26-2011, 10:08 PM
    I didn't read the first thread, so I have the benefit of fresh eyes here. :)
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        02-26-2011, 10:10 PM
    Like I said, I don't see her arguing. I see her giving her point of view.

    Are there things she can improve? Of course. There are for EVERY horse person.

    Is she saying that she is not going to take any advice? Nope. I see her stating where she knows she needs improvement.

    Do I see the point of this thread? Yes I do. I see that she wanted to show how the mare currently rides and how she handles this mare.

    Do I think that it is all rider error? Heck no. I have a mare that acts dang near as nutty. It is that horse's personality and how she acts under saddle.
        02-26-2011, 10:15 PM

    Maybe you shoud read the first thread, so you can hate me along with everyone else and tell me how I'm abusing my poor horse by tearing her face off. ;)

    (I still maintain that it's the exact same rein pressure in both videos.)
        02-26-2011, 10:24 PM
    While this video is considerably better, I stand by the fact that green horses = snaffle riding. An o-ring or eggbutt will benefit her greatly.
        02-26-2011, 10:26 PM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by bubba13    

    She's actually not sweet on the ground, in the pasture, for the farrier, for the vet, in a house, with a mouse, in a box, or with a fox, she does not like green eggs and get the picture.

    I do, however, think there's a potential she is back sore. Her saddle was actually custom-made to fit her years back. However, I noticed over the past season that as she gained more muscle in the shoulder she started to get dry spots behind and below her withers. I was in the process of seeing if I could correct the problem with therapeutic saddle pads when she got hurt again.

    At the moment, since she is still atrophied and out of shape, it's not an issue. And certainly from all outward appearances the saddle seems to fit. But I'm suspicious all the same and intend to have the vet give her back the once-over when it's time for spring vaccinations here in the near future.

    In one of your posts I thought you said that she was nice and easy to handle on the ground, sorry.

    You might want to look into one of those pads that you can custom shim to help with her saddle fit, especially if you are bringing her back from an injury and she could change shape even more.

    You can check if your mare is sore just by applying steady pressure on either side of her spine, and where you are seeing excessive wet or dry spots, I do that with Blue from time to time since I have been having such issues with saddle fit. Its pretty easy to tell where he is sore!
        02-26-2011, 10:26 PM

    No one "hates you or thinks you are tearing your horse's face off". What I said was that the way your horse rides is your responsibility. If you want to change it , and I personally, when asked to critique "this rider" , felt that it needed to be changed for the horse's happiness and soundness, then you must change the way YOU ride. The horse may be hot, may do this may do that but if you want to change it, you have to change you you ride.
    Want the same? Do nothing.

    No hate involved. As long as your rein contact is like it is and seat like it is, then she will go like she does.
        02-26-2011, 10:35 PM
    I just think that Bubba13 could be taking the advice and critique given to her much more openly because she did ask for it. But by saying that every one hates her and thinks she's ripping her horse's face off is quite a stretch and already putting off the advice and critique given to her.
        02-26-2011, 10:36 PM

    I agree, but she's not a green horse. She's a seasoned nine-year-old competitor. She was broke and trained in the snaffle as a four-year-old, and still uses one on occasion (generally a Myler mullen D-ring). But she rides better in a curb.


    I was being sarcastic to the people insisting she was horribly unhappy about the way I was riding her because her ears are pinned. That mare's ears are constantly flattened, even when no people are around.

    I have gotten a similar-style pad for another horse. I'm afraid that if the issue crops up again, though, it's going to be a saddle issue. Although I think my cheaper economy trophy saddle might fit her better than the expensive custom one--funny how that works, no?

    I did notice her flinching in the back today, which is what first clued me in to the possibility of a lurking problem, but I had just been brushing her with a metal curry to help shed, so not exactly the best circumstances to tell. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on things.


    I maintain and will continue to reiterate that there is nothing wrong with the amount of pressure I put on the reins. I may need work on hand position, or whatever, but I have forgiving hands and pride myself on finesse with the reins. Maybe the videos don't show that; maybe people legitimately think they're seeing me rip at my horse's face. But I'm not, and I know I'm not.

    Seat could use work, yes. Already said I'm working on that and overall riding stiffness.
        02-26-2011, 10:38 PM
    OMG, will you folks lighten up? Bubba was only exaggerating to make a point, using a sense of humor, to boot!
        02-26-2011, 10:38 PM
    And Bubba13, ignoring my comments is denying what is actually going on...seeing as you have addressed everyone else's comments.

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