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        08-29-2011, 06:12 PM
      #11
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    I like this mare!! Maybe another for you to eventually *event*? BTW, I enjoy poaching riders from the hunter ring and turning them into eventers.

    I agree with most of what is said above. Be careful doing stirrupless work. If not done correctly (WRAP those legs) it can actually aggravate grabbing with the knees.

    I like how you handled the refusal. It would have been a shame to punish her for a rider distance mistake. You took responsibility which was Fabulous and well done. You allowed her to settle, relax, and calmly did it again....and better! Well done.

    As for the changes, you need a half half before the change to engage the haunch more before you ask. In my opinion, though, you should avoid needing changes by giving your horse a clearer idea of where you will be going while making the jump so that the horse lands in the correct lead. The only time I like changes is when you have to make a double turn, making one necessary.

    Good job, girl!!
         
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        08-29-2011, 07:50 PM
      #12
    Foal
    I agree with everything that has been said here. I strongly suggest taking lessons on a horse that isn't yours so you can work on your position and cues, whatever without having to worry about what the horse may do in response. Even if it is only once or twice a month, it helps so much to get a second opinion on your riding and tell you what to fix exactly when it happens.
         
        08-29-2011, 09:04 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    I find the 6 character needed thing catches me every time I make a reply.

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    Originally Posted by countercanter    

    You are pushing yourself to the back of your saddle and your legs slightly in front of you. Think about sitting more on your *ahem* lady parts rather than your butt and stretching your leg down through your heel, and always thinking about your heel, hip, elbow aligment.

    I had been thinking about the when I was watching my video. I feel like I'm riding on my crotch, but apparently, I'm not. Working on the heel thing, I have shorter than normal calf muscles (due to walk on my toes), though I keep forgetting to keep my heels back!

    It is definitely something you should try when you have the opportunity. The horse I leased my last two years of high school was a seasoned hunter. The "been there, done that, got the t-shirt" type. You pretty much told him where to start and he went on auto pilot. Riding a horse like that after my first horse, who I actually had to work hard to ride, was not only a nice break but if also allowed me to focus a lot on myself and I worked out a lot of problems I had.

    I had a horse like that on consignment with me for a while. Wish I still had him. He helped me a lot but I only had him for about 2 months before he was put out to another trainer because school became too hectic for me and a friend to keep working with Jake, Dutchess and the consignment horse.

    That is pretty tough. I would maybe suggest finding a barn in the area you could go to once every other week or at least once a month and take a lesson on a horse they have there. Even though its not your horse it can still be a big help. Also try and find a friend that does have a way to haul and see if you can split the cost of gas or something and find a trainer you both like and do a mini group lesson.

    I just had a *head desk* moment. I've been so concerned with trying to find a trainer for Jake and I, that I hadn't thought much about getting just myself a trainer. I am fully capable of going to another stables and working with a trainer. No one I know with a truck wants to go to another trainer or take me anywhere (despite if I paid for gas....)
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    I like this mare!! Maybe another for you to eventually *event*? BTW, I enjoy poaching riders from the hunter ring and turning them into eventers.

    I would LOVE to do some dressage with her. But unfortunetly the xc would be a long ways off....she can be insecure about anything odd (water, ditches) to an extent that she would do it, but not without stopping at looking at it like this : first at everything. Haha her owner is trying to sell/lease her now, so I don't think I will have access to her much longer. =( I am all for the eventing though. I don't see the point too much in hunters, I understand it is good to get the horse working like a hunter horse, but after that its time to move on. Its a great start, but I have a hard time understanding it on a professional level.

    I agree with most of what is said above. Be careful doing stirrupless work. If not done correctly (WRAP those legs) it can actually aggravate grabbing with the knees.

    This is actually what I've been afraid of. I grip a lot with the knees because of my years and years of bareback riding. I get my balance from my seat and knees alone. I've wondered if a lot of my problems have to do with a lack of using the stirrups. Something I've always considered. Though posting without stirrups has been a wonderful workout the past week or so

    I like how you handled the refusal. It would have been a shame to punish her for a rider distance mistake. You took responsibility which was Fabulous and well done. You allowed her to settle, relax, and calmly did it again....and better! Well done.

    You've really made me rethink how I handle everything. I've always been an aggressive rider. Now I try to look for the alternative and an assertive, but non-aggressive way to handle things. I was always taught the assertive, but never the softness.

    As for the changes, you need a half half before the change to engage the haunch more before you ask. In my opinion, though, you should avoid needing changes by giving your horse a clearer idea of where you will be going while making the jump so that the horse lands in the correct lead. The only time I like changes is when you have to make a double turn, making one necessary.

    Hmm this is what I do with Jake, but every-time I try with Dutchess her owner chews me out. I haven't mastered the finesse of asking without influencing the horses body, (leaning, dropping a hoof, head turning....ect) and she told me I would distort the hunter straightness over the jump. So instead I try and ask for the change. Yeah, however she was taught to do a lead change, it was to just run into it. So half halts work until I ask for the change...I was trying to not mess with her too much. If I would have been on my own I would have been asking for trotting transitions, but her owner wanted me to try the changes.

    Good job, girl!!

    Thank you.

    PS. Out of curiosity did you get my last couple of messages? I had a few questions.
         
        08-29-2011, 09:07 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maggie May    
    I agree with everything that has been said here. I strongly suggest taking lessons on a horse that isn't yours so you can work on your position and cues, whatever without having to worry about what the horse may do in response. Even if it is only once or twice a month, it helps so much to get a second opinion on your riding and tell you what to fix exactly when it happens.
    Sorry didn't see yours. I can't believe I didn't think of this before. Lol. I have been craving some rider feed back. It would be easy enough for myself to go to another stables and get some help. The trainer at my stables only focuses on the horse, with the occasional "maybe you should lean back." She also tells me my horse bends beautifully to the right but stiff on the left, which in fact he has a hard time bending to the right, and and very flexible to the left.

    I guess the search is on for a decent stables. >_< I already know 1/2 the stables in the area and they are all no bueno.
         
        08-29-2011, 09:15 PM
      #15
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    PS. Out of curiosity did you get my last couple of messages? I had a few questions.
    Hmmm....I've answered everything you sent. I see nothing new. BTW, I am SO glad what we have been discussing has helped! I see a HUGE change in your riding!! WooHoo!
         

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