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    02-01-2011, 10:55 AM
  #1
Weanling
One Month Progress/Help Needed

Alright everyone, here are some before/after photos. The left photos are from Dec. 16th 2010 and the right photos are from Jan. 26 2011. This is a little over one month, so I know there isn't going to be any huge differences, but do you see any?

I am also looking for tips/exercises to build up her lack of muscle. Most importantly her topline. Also, her gaskin looks funny to me. Like it has a dent in it. Are there any exercises to build this area specifically?

Thanks for the advice!

     
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    02-01-2011, 01:07 PM
  #2
Weanling
Well, what really stands out to me is that she looks a lot thinner in the after photos. I would really look into that before thinking about trying to get her muscled. Maybe with being worked more, she needs more calories in her diet. She definitely won't be able to build muscle if she isn't getting what she needs from her diet.

I also notice a lump on the back of her left hock in the second set of photos. Was that always there?
     
    02-01-2011, 01:11 PM
  #3
Weanling
Thanks for your comments! She is definitely thinner. She has been losing weight for a little while and I have been doing everything I can think of to help her gain, but she just isn't. I am going to try and add some corn oil to her diet and maybe a weight gainer? Any suggestions on that?

She has free choice hay and she ALWAYS has her head stuck in it...I don't really want to increase her 14% pellets if I can avoid it, but I will if I have to.

The lump was always there (I know you really can't tell from the first photo). Its an old injury according to the vet. Looks like maybe she was kicked or something similar, but it doesnt affect her in any way.
     
    02-01-2011, 01:18 PM
  #4
Yearling
How old is the mare? And what is she getting for food right now and how much a day? Also when was she wormed last?
     
    02-01-2011, 01:21 PM
  #5
Foal
Your horse looks alot like mine cool
     
    02-01-2011, 01:32 PM
  #6
Weanling
Eventer-

She just turned 5 years old, the 2nd pictures were actually taken on her birthday.

She is being fed Heritage 14% pellets from Big V Feeds. I know nothing about this feed, this is just what they feed at the farm I moved her to last month.

http://www.bigvfeeds.com/images/E018...HorseFeed2.pdf

Currently she is being fed a scoop and a half in the morning and again at night. I know I need to weigh this, but I would think that it would total about 8-10lbs. I can find out exactly how much this is soon (I just need to find a scale).

She is in what I would consider heavy work (I ride her about 5-6 times a week for about 30-45 minutes) so according to their instructions, she needs about 11-14lbs a day (I am guessing her at 1100 lbs., but really she is probably around 1000). Obviously I could bump her up on this feed, however does anyone have a recommendation on a better feed or does this one look ok?

She was last wormed when she was vet checked on December 10th, 2010 so it has been about 7 1/2 weeks.

Should I go ahead and worm her again?

ETA-Thanks Larra!
     
    02-01-2011, 04:00 PM
  #7
Weanling
Bump!

Trying to set her up for success guys. Don't want her to lose any more weight than she already has...

Recommendations?
     
    02-01-2011, 05:51 PM
  #8
Trained
If that scoop and a 1/2 of pelleted feed is a 2 quart scoop, it probably only weighs about 3lbs tops. The pelleted stuff is surprisingly light.
     
    02-01-2011, 06:04 PM
  #9
Green Broke
She has dropped a little but before I go into anything about feed/worming there are a couple of other things to consider:

1.) She has moved recently. TB’s do experience stress as a result of moving and stress can lead to poor digestion.
2.) Did she come from the track directly? If so, she was probably on rocket fuel food and as such her current feed is probably of a lower caloric value.
3.) It is heading into winter and TB’s can struggle in the colder weather, some do some don’t. Your girl might be one that does.
4.) Any combination of the above either acting alone or in concert.

I don’t know what your scoop measurement is but as a comparison, I feed my girl 2 scoops of pelleted feed a day which is equivalent to around 13 pounds daily. Plus free choice hay. She is worked 3 days a week and not overly hard – between 30 mins and 60 mins, mostly walk/trot work with some cantering.

Also, even though your girl may have lost some weight, it is minimal and you are getting onto it at the right time! I think you may just need to increase her feed. She is new to you, it will take some time to ‘get it right’ in terms of diet.

Before anyone mentions it, I don’t think it is a dental issue as they don’t usually present as an acute weight loss. However, you may want to consider having her teeth done as they may not have been done since she had her wolf teeth removed. Having them done may help with her digestion and continued weight gain.

I love her winter fuzzies!!
     
    02-01-2011, 10:02 PM
  #10
Yearling
Well when my Tb came back from training he was skin and bones, I was not very happy so I put him on Beet Pulp one Big scoop full it was about a inch on the bottom of a bucket, and calf manna and I love calf manna for this reason when I was riding my horse I needed to feet him more concentrates and protein because most Tbs loose weight easily if worked and he did so he was on alot of hay and grain. Calf manna bulked him up like crazy ill show you a comparison. Id say if you can get a hay that has a higher procentage in protein id try that first and a bit of beet pulp. And if that doesnt help get some calf manna.

On calf manna/40% alfalfa/timothy hay


I can't find a before pic but he was skinnier than your horse :/ it was bad and he put the weight on in 3- 5 months
     

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