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  • Jumping a horse with your hands far apart
  • How high to hold your hands in dressage

 
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    01-16-2010, 11:09 PM
  #11
Weanling
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Originally Posted by xoSonnyLove1234    
How high are those jumps? The horse looks beautiful. I would only say (on the flat) that your hands are way to far apart. I really thought you were trying to set his head.
The jumps are probably between 1ft to 2'3". I'm actually not trying to set his head/force it by having my hands wide. It doesn't take much to get him in a frame. He is very soft. I think the main reason I ride with my hands far apart is I feel like im... being softer and gentler with him and I can be more giving I guess. I know it's not correct, and I will definitely work on it. I haven't had an actual dressage lesson in a while, but I think I am going to start back with those soon! I stopped taking lessons with my dressage trainer when he started having a little jumping issue and focused my time and money on my jumping trainer. She is a great dressage trainer too, but I don't take striaght dressage lessons with her, its just a little bit of dressage warm-up before jumping.
     
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    01-17-2010, 07:53 AM
  #12
Trained
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It doesn't take much to get him in a frame.
How do you get him into frame?
     
    01-17-2010, 08:50 AM
  #13
Weanling
Set my outside rein and use my inside leg to push him over and into that outside connection basically. I know how to ride dressage correctly and I understand everything and what I am SUPPOSED to do. But I think we can all agree that things are easier said than done. Since I haven't had dressage lessons in a while, my position has really slipped, but those will start back soon. I really don't know what got me started on riding with my hands so wide. I thought that's just how I always rode and I thought my previous event horse made me ride like that, but I just looked at my pictures from previous event horses and my hands were no where near that bad. Im shocked after looking back at old pictures. I will definitely focus on that today, and try to get some more pictures with my hands TOGETHER.
     
    01-17-2010, 08:58 AM
  #14
Weanling
For comparison, this is how I used to hold my hands.
     
    01-17-2010, 10:17 AM
  #15
Started
The bad habit with your hands is definitely understandable. I recently got into the habit of carrying my hands too low, have no idea where that came from, so now I have to remind myself every second to keep my hands up. It's very annoying, ha ha. I'm sure now that you've seen what you're doing it will be easy to correct.
     
    01-17-2010, 11:47 AM
  #16
Trained
Sometimes wide hands is necessary with younger horses. They're like training wheels. It gives the horse more clear communication. They are very useful, but as he gets better to responding to your seat aids, start weaning him off them or else he will become dependent on them and only them for direction...hence heavy on forehand, mouthy horse.

As far as positon, your entire body is pitched forward a bit and it directly plays into how your horse moves. Look at the 6th picture and compare your forward slouched shoulders to his shoulders. You're both heavy on your forehands! You already know about your pinching knees. Get that lower leg forward and perpendicular to the ground and trot around in half seat until your thighs burn off your legs. It works great!

Pretty horse, but then I'm a sucker for TB's.
     
    01-17-2010, 04:52 PM
  #17
Weanling
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Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
Sometimes wide hands is necessary with younger horses. They're like training wheels. It gives the horse more clear communication. They are very useful, but as he gets better to responding to your seat aids, start weaning him off them or else he will become dependent on them and only them for direction...hence heavy on forehand, mouthy horse.

As far as positon, your entire body is pitched forward a bit and it directly plays into how your horse moves. Look at the 6th picture and compare your forward slouched shoulders to his shoulders. You're both heavy on your forehands! You already know about your pinching knees. Get that lower leg forward and perpendicular to the ground and trot around in half seat until your thighs burn off your legs. It works great!

Pretty horse, but then I'm a sucker for TB's.
Thanks! I'll work on that, and I'll also try to get some pictures of me in my dressage saddle instead of my jump saddle. Trotting in half seat is my worst enemy. Haha. It is sooooo painful. But I guess i'll suck it up because I know it'll help me in the long run!
     
    01-20-2010, 04:33 PM
  #18
Weanling
He's so cute! And either he's REEEAAALLLY big or you're really tiny, haha! But you look like an effective rider.
I disagree with the comment that your leg is too far back - your hip and heel are aligned. Yes, a couple of the pictures look like it's too far back at first glance, but I think that's partly a function of the green horse jump, and your leg is actually quite nice. Good job! :) Nothing beats an OTTB!
     
    01-20-2010, 07:45 PM
  #19
Yearling
I'm not really great at critiquing..but I just wanted to say I have that exact shirt and your horse is gorgeous!
     
    01-20-2010, 08:00 PM
  #20
Yearling
On the dressage: Try to hold your hands higher and closer together. When you go over a turn, think of using your outside leg to move him over rather than using your inside to pull. Also make sure on turns that you aren't leaning in, keep your hips, heels, and shoulders aligned and over each other. Think more of turning around a merry go round pole rather than leaning when you turn. Also, your left side is collapsing which probably means you have a stronger right side. Think of inflating your ribcage on the left so your left side does not collapse. Try to straighten your back and shoulders a bit, imagine a hand pressing against your chest and you are pressing back but not leaning forward. You should also relax your elbows and wrists/hands, as they are a bit rigid and holding the reins. Your arms should feel connected to your reins, and the whole line from elbow to the horse's bit should feel like an elastic band rather than a piece of wood.

I won't critique the jumping because I haven't jumped in a year, so I would not trust my own judgment.
     

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