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post #1 of 11 Old 03-18-2012, 01:40 PM Thread Starter
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Please Critique!

Okay so I have a problem, I have a show in two weeks and I still look really bad over fences! I'm not sure why but ever since I atarted riding the horse I am now I can't keep my eq together over fences. My trainer says I pinch with my knee, have a bad upper body, etc but I can't seem to fix them! Please let me know of any tips at all that can help me. You can crit the horse too but he's not mine I'm just showing him. And I promise I don't normally ride this badly

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The biggest thing I notice is the movement of your back. Your shoulders are rounded forward and you hunch over the fence. You're not bending at your hip hardly at all, and your upper body is too upright so when the horse stretches his neck over the fence he pulls your arms and your shoulders.

You need to pull your shoulders back and push your chest out and stay that way. Then bend at the hip. While taking the fence, push your chest down towards the horse's neck but don't forget to keep our shoulder's back and your back straight while you're at it. This will make it easier for you to crest release without the horse pulling your shoulder forward and pulling you out of position. It will also anchor your hips more for a quieter seat. And a quieter seat will help you maintain a quieter leg.

Here's an example of what you need to be striving for: http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com..._3564711_n.jpg

My trainer always told me to pretend to be showing off your chest and your butt. You want to keep your chest out and your butt out over the fences and not rounding everything in.

It may also help if you try to maintain a good posture when you're not riding. This will help train your shoulders back and your back straight and will condition those muscles so you'll better be able to stay that way while you're riding.

To be honest, your riding is really not that bad. There are a few things for you to work on but they're relatively easy to fix with a bit of determination and practice. Keep working at it and you'll get there!
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Thanks for all the tips! :) I'll work on those things tomorrow
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So you really have to stick your butt out like that? As per the photo link you showed?
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Well you don't have to be quite so dramatic about it but I picked a photo that was slightly exaggerated just so she could see what I meant. ^^ But yes, you should stick your butt out at least a little. You have to keep your hips centered over the saddle to keep your seat steady and firm for the whole flight over the fence. If you round your back and bring your butt with you as you lean forward, you're likely to fall over the horse's neck upon landing. Or end up slouching over the fence which is sloppy and will not help you or your horse make a stable, balanced landing.

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I think the linked photo shows lovely equitation. The rider might have exagerated the angle in her hip more than strictly necessary for the size of the fence, but I would much, much, rather see form like this than the more commom jumping ahead/standing in the stirrup/laying on the neck. The rider in the linked photo also has a nice, flat relaxed back as opposed to the unnatural overly arched back resulting in "duck butt" or "porno butt" posture.
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I think the linked photo shows lovely equitation. The rider might have exagerated the angle in her hip more than strictly necessary for the size of the fence, but I would much, much, rather see form like this than the more commom jumping ahead/standing in the stirrup/laying on the neck. The rider in the linked photo also has a nice, flat relaxed back as opposed to the unnatural overly arched back resulting in "duck butt" or "porno butt" posture.
porno butt, I'm going to die it's so true!!!!

Anyways, as for your leg, which I didn't see much of a problem with but I saw at least one instance of you pinching with your knee (which is a big no no if course). So try imagining using your thigh to push your knee down instead of in, and secure your lower leg with your thigh and calf. I think a lot of times riders get so calf strong and then need something to "secure" the upper part of their leg so they end up pinching with their knee instead of pushing down with their thigh muscles which makes for a stronger base of support all together. It should help with the knee pinching problem.

That coupled with the advice above should give you a solid equitation position that will impress any judge

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porno butt, I'm going to die it's so true!!!!
I can't take credit for that, I got that from another forum member, MIEventer, who is very critical of bad hunter seat equitation and that form fault in particular.

She also posted the best, if nastiest, description of a balanced two point position ever. It's as if you were in a filthy airport bathroom, trying to squat above the seat without losing you balance, but staying as close to the seat as your can. When you release, you want to imagine that you're reaching for a roll of tp on the back of the door - you don't want to change anything else about your position, just reach forward and down with your arm and elbow.

I hesitate to use that when teaching, but sometimes when someone is really struggling with the correct two point, that description just clears it right up for them.
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I can't take credit for that, I got that from another forum member, MIEventer, who is very critical of bad hunter seat equitation and that form fault in particular.

She also posted the best, if nastiest, description of a balanced two point position ever. It's as if you were in a filthy airport bathroom, trying to squat above the seat without losing you balance, but staying as close to the seat as your can. When you release, you want to imagine that you're reaching for a roll of tp on the back of the door - you don't want to change anything else about your position, just reach forward and down with your arm and elbow.

I hesitate to use that when teaching, but sometimes when someone is really struggling with the correct two point, that description just clears it right up for them.

LOL wow. That analogy sums it up perfectly! (However awkward it might sound.) I love it! XD
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Haha thanks and haha that analogy! Wow ;)
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