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post #1 of 18 Old 05-27-2008, 05:01 PM Thread Starter
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Please Critique 3 yr old Paint Gelding

Could you guys please critique my 3yr old Paint gelding. He just turned 3 Saturday. His daddy is a colored TB and his mom was a QH based paint mare.

Heres his pedigree

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/nlf+trulee+catwalkin

He is 16hh and has 7 APHA points. I have been doing hunter Under saddle with him mainly but other events as well.

Heres pictures and vids













Videos these are 5 months old;) he's improved alot:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMA3LrWTQOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9xMoCfnFjs

VR Zippo Tommy Too aka Jackson 2000 Overo Paint Gelding
NLF Trulee Catwalkin aka Felix 2005 Overo Paint Gelding
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post #2 of 18 Old 05-27-2008, 06:51 PM
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I'm doing a fairly quick overview, please let me know if you want details - I've probably missed a few things :P
Great shoulder, nice neck attachment to the wither, a little low to the chest. Wither is sitting nicely in proportion to the back. Needs a bit more topline to make his back less steep. Pointy hip, steep croup. Fairly low tail set. In the first picture his near side knee looks very swollen. Long pasterns.Clean throatlatch and a nice dainty head. Is built downhill. The bit looks a little high in the cantering picture.
All in all, I really like him - he's fairly well balanced and there's nothing (except the knee) that puts me off about him.

ETA: I only looked at the pictures, didn't look at or critique the videos :)


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Truly, he's built so far down hill. Maybe he's bum high and will start to grow up in his front end? I know its your discipline to ride "long and low". But he's not working off his hind end in the show photo. Its just not correct. But I watched a bit of the video and it seems that all riders in your eq classes have their horses moving that way.

The last photo of the bareback is lovely though, he's elevated through the front end.
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Truly, he's built so far down hill. Maybe he's bum high and will start to grow up in his front end? I know its your discipline to ride "long and low". But he's not working off his hind end in the show photo. Its just not correct. But I watched a bit of the video and it seems that all riders in your eq classes have their horses moving that way.

The last photo of the bareback is lovely though, he's elevated through the front end.
he's built down hill at the moment because he is going through another growth spurt :) He is young and a big boy, he is already 16hh and has gone through these out of kilter spurts numerous times now and leveled out.

Yes, long and low is the discipline and he wins it lol.im not sure how one photo can tell you that he is definitely not working off his hind end.

If you go throught all of the pasture photos of him cantering and the abrebcak ones he is naturally a very uphill, lifted mover.


Justdressageit-Thanks, I beleive the knee is caused by shadows because in the other photos I took that day he is fine , he wasnt lame, and it isnt swollen now. Maybe he did bump it. IDK lol.

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he looks good!!
A little down hill, but if he is going through a growth spurt again he should even up nicely.

Sunners,
You'd need to see a video to tell if he is working off his hind legs or not...with two pictures you can't tell...he looks good...his back is rounded and he's on the bit nicely
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The headset should come from the hind end entirely. Looking from the picture of him stood up to the pictures of him in the show ring, his hind end hasn't really changed in angle. It should be under him more.

But again, I think that's just the entire discipline - long and low and on the forehand.
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The headset should come from the hind end entirely. Looking from the picture of him stood up to the pictures of him in the show ring, his hind end hasn't really changed in angle. It should be under him more.

But again, I think that's just the entire discipline - long and low and on the forehand.
Agreed. And you can most definitely tell from a picture whether or not a horse is working off the hind or front end.


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Bloodline wise he's ok. He's off of racing lines on daddy's side but nothing on momma's side jumps out at me. Pretty boy and nice color on him.
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I mainly looked at the videos, and here's what I see. A baby with a lot of potential, but still needs some work.

First - he needs to relax his neck and stretch it out quite a bit. It's in a good location, but it is tense over the top, and he is on the verge of going behind the vertical. He needs to look like he's reaching for your hands a bit - not nosing out or taking the bit away, but reaching to find that contact.

Second - he has pretty good drive from the hind end at the canter, but at both the trot and canter, his strides are rushed. He needs to relax into a comfortable rhythm, and stretch his stride length out some.

To help with the strides I do a lot of two-tracking. When you do that, remember to really be driving them up and into the bit. If you do that, it will help them learn how to use their entire body, elevate their shoulders some, and move them out. Also, to help slow the cadence at the trot slow your post down some. Even though it's not right for eq, try to post behind the movement just a bit, and sit up a little straighter than you would for eq. That generally slows them down some and lets them reach out more also.
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post #10 of 18 Old 05-29-2008, 02:05 PM
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wow is he a cute 3 yr old! :)

I see the downhill-ness too but my 4 yr old just grew another spirt and she looked funny for a while but then evened out some ... so I wouldn't worry but yeah if you want to sell him let me know ;)

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