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post #1 of 31 Old 04-08-2008, 01:00 AM Thread Starter
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Please Critique and Rank these stallions

We are strongly considering breeding our mare back this year to a large paint stallion. Our mare is a stock type, and her lines include doc bar, cutty sark, poca lena, poco bueno.

Our hopes are to produce an athletic, versatile, colorful, leggy, conformationally correct show and future breeding prospect. Our current horses are all right at the 15h range, but we would like to produce/introduce at least a couple of horses in the 15.2-16h range for our farm.

I would appreciate for faults to be pointed out, and also these stallions to be placed in order of most desirable to breed to least desirable to breed.
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#1) Ima Quick Dream Maker
successful halter stallion. He is homozygous for black.See his progeny, pedigree, and accomplishments here:

What concerns me: It was pointed out in the breeding forum is that he has straight back pasterns, mutton withers, and is down hill. It does appear that his foals have received these traits. Also, he is a halter horse rather than performance, so I don't know how athletic his foals would be.

#2) Amigos Cody Bar
has successful halter and performance sire and dam. He is homozygous for black and tobiano. see his progeny and pedigree here:

#3) Drummin the Boogie
successful halter and performers in pedigree. Successful halter progeny. He is homozygous for black and tobiano. See details, pedigree and progeny here:
What concerns me: he has a long head and short neck.

#4) Black Forest
has competed in hunter & jumper type classes. Progeny have been successful competing in halter and performance classes. He is homozygous tobiano. See pedigree and other details here:
My concerns: a lot of white. no standing confo. shot from the side (I will email for one if people think he is worth further look)

#5) Tidal Wave
champion hunter and hunter under saddle. he is homozygous for tobiano. See more details here:
My concern: not a good side confo. shot, but I can email for one if he seems worth looking at more.

#6) The huntsman
jumping pedigree. he is homozygous for tobiano. see more details here:
My concern: no confo shot,but I can email for one, if he is worth looking at.

#7) Impressive Equi te
superior halter horse. progeny are point earners and money earners. he is homozygous black. See more details here:
My concern: no confo. shot. Being a halter horse, he may not produce performers.

#8) Image of Champions
ROM in hunter halter. Has placed in hunter under saddle. Champion bloodlines. Homozygous for tobiano. See details here:

Let me know what you guys think :) :) Thanks (Please keep in mind that our mare is stock bred, so we want to compliment her while adding height and versatile talent). :)
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post #2 of 31 Old 04-08-2008, 06:07 AM
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I can't give advices on breeding in any way (have no experience). :) But I really liked Black Forest (my 1st pick) and Huntsman head/neck combo is very nice too (although you need confo pic for sure).
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post #3 of 31 Old 04-08-2008, 06:17 AM
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I love Black Forest. Very stunning. I have no idea about QH's so I cant really rank them other than prettiness.
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post #4 of 31 Old 04-08-2008, 07:47 AM
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Are you just thinking about breeding for performence? No concern for color other than the foal having color? I would definatly go with Image of Champoins for performance though!
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post #5 of 31 Old 04-08-2008, 09:21 AM
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I love Black Forest he is GORGEOUS but with Image of Champions you might get more of a performance horse.
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post #6 of 31 Old 04-08-2008, 09:26 AM
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Ohman the last one the last one the last one. Amazing confirmation, lengthy, leggy, would make a nice all around horse.

Black Forest is alright, not my personal pick. Too compact for my taste.

Image of Champions is the one i'd go with. Nice temperment, lovely lines. Looks like a good mover. Yah, pick that one :)
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post #7 of 31 Old 04-08-2008, 09:27 AM
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Tho the one i like is more english geared in confirmation and movment. But if you breed it to a western mare. Ohgeeze, look out show ring
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post #8 of 31 Old 04-08-2008, 10:59 AM
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I think Black Forest and Image of Champions are the best two stallions (although I do not know much about breeding yet.) I love Black Forest's Trot (looks like a good dressage prospect) and I love Image of Champions because he is so leggy and screams Hunt Seat and Dressage to me. I think they both would ad some height to your foal, but Image of Champions might refine the foal too much.
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post #9 of 31 Old 04-08-2008, 11:24 AM
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Not sure if you are interested in seeing more stallions, but this is what I found :
go to click on Horse ID Search and enter these numbers :
most of them are 16.2hh and bigger.
sorry, but I tried to put a link up for each stallion, but it did not work. if you have time, they are worth looking at.
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post #10 of 31 Old 04-08-2008, 11:36 AM
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Horse 1)
I do see all the traits you mentioned, but I also see upright pasterns, which are "in style" right now, but set the horse up to get navicular later on. They aren't good for prefomance horses.

Horse 2)
I don't like him at all, sorry. He has a steep croup, bumpy hip, slight sway back (very slight, but I still don't like it), neck attachment is low.

Horse 3)
I like him! Check out where his wither ends - right in the middle of his back... that means his centre of balance is right in the centre of him. He has a nice short athletic back. His shoulder is a little straight, but nothing I'd lose sleep over. The only thing that throws me off is he looks a little sickle-hocked, or over-extended off the back end. He has a nice hip though!

Horse 4)
He's a looker from what I can tell... but I can't critique much because there aren't any real conformation pictures. He has that nice centred wither like horse 3. He will be able to collect himself really well.

Horse 5)
That conformation picture isn't great - it's on an odd angle that makes things look out of proportion. I don't like the overall look of him, but I can't pinpoint why.
For the hunter picture: he is not squared up in front.

Horse 6)
Can't tell you anything other than he has a nice looking head and kind eye.

Horse 7)
Can't tell anything from the picture other than he looks to have neat coloring.

Horse 8)
Something looks wonky with his hind legs in the shot where he's standing still - they don't look straight! Maybe it's just the markings that make them look like that, but that's the first thing I noticed. The picture of him trotting under western saddle looks weird as well...
Looks to be very angular - I would want to see a conformation picture for sure. Long head.

I won't rank the horses right now since there are too many that I can't comment on, but so far I like #3 and #4 best.

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