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        11-16-2009, 02:40 AM
      #1
    Yearling
    Please critique riding! (really bad!?)

    This is my friend riding. Please critique everything you see :)
    Here is her riding her horse:

    Here is a video from this spring..on a diff horse.. the horse is wearing a hackamore.. and I almost cried when she yanked on the reins 3 times hard when he didnt stand still :( I have heard hackamores are harsh.
    **the video didnt work.. I will try to fix it another day..**


    Any tips/advice for her?
    What level rider do you think she is?
    Please critique!
    Thanks
         
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        11-16-2009, 03:11 AM
      #2
    Trained
    She actually looks like she has a pretty solid seat.

    I would say the stirrups are too long - She has no hope of getting her heels down and anchored how they are.

    She also needs to learn how to be more sublte with her hands/arms - She looks like she ios trying to fly! She needs to bring her elbows back down near her sides and try to use her wrist insetad of her whole arms to affect the bit. I'm glad to see she is in a snaffle most of the time - She is nowhere near ready for the refinement of a curb.
         
        11-16-2009, 03:24 AM
      #3
    Yearling
    Thanks for the critique.
    She does have a solid seat, and is well balanced. But her skill level is quite low.
    She is extremely aggressive with her horses, and just yesterday, she hopped on her horse bareback with a blanket on, and halter.. then her horse started eating hay off the ground.. she flipped out, and hit the horse repeated times with the rope, and her horse started going nuts, rearing and spinning, and she kept hitting her.
    She thinks she's amazing and awesome, but I think not so much.
    I think she needs lessons, and to stop being so horrible to her horse.

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    She also needs to learn how to be more sublte with her hands/arms - She looks like she ios trying to fly!
    hehe. That's what I notice alot as well.

    I don't know how I am supposed to tell her what she's doing wrong in a nice way, without her flipping out at me, saying im wrong, and hating me for a couple days (she does that).
         
        11-16-2009, 04:10 AM
      #4
    Showing
    At this point, I think it may be best just to be perfectly blunt with her. She isn't doing her horse any favors by hauling on her mouth all the time and because your friend doesn't know what she is doing, she is confusing the crap out of her horse. Maybe after you get a few more responses, you could show this thread to your friend and let her see for herself what some more experienced horse-people have to say.

    She is trying to do way too much way before she is ready. I personally don't think she is ready to be beyond a trot because she doesn't know how to sit quietly on a horse. She has no sublety to her cues and a good rider should be very subtle. When I watch the video, all I see is flying arms and legs and yanking reins and no control. I don't mean that she doesn't have control of her horse (though even that is iffy), I mean that she doesn't have control of herself. She is trying to do barrels and jumping and all these other things when she doesn't understand the mechanics of what she is asking her horse to do and therefore doesn't understand when her horse is doing wrong. She would genuinely benefit from some beginning level lessons. Lessons that would slow her down and teach her to communicate with her horse without just pulling them around with the bit, kick to go, and yank to stop. She doesn't need to become a horse whisperer (it would help but isn't necessary), just needs to understand how to feel her horse. How to know when her horse is turning on her forequarters going around a barrel and how to get her back on her rear. That is something that needs to be learned before she ever starts on the pattern. It takes a good horseman to properly handle a barrel horse and keep them from becoming hot, flighty, and sour. She is on a quick route to ruining her horse. Unless she gets help now, there will be too much damage done to ever go back.
         
        11-16-2009, 04:12 AM
      #5
    Yearling
    Oh jeez lol
    She is relying on the reins for balance and defiantly needs to work on softening up her hands. I'm sorry but riding like that will mess a horse up quick,Mentally and physically.

    And I understand what you mean by "telling her in a nice way".I had a friend that was one of the worst riders I have ever seen.I tried talking to her but by that time she had RUINED that poor mare to the point she was untouchable. Luckily she is in a better home now but they had to start back at the basics.
         
        11-16-2009, 04:26 AM
      #6
    Yearling
    Quote:
    At this point, I think it may be best just to be perfectly blunt with her. She isn't doing her horse any favors by hauling on her mouth all the time and because your friend doesn't know what she is doing, she is confusing the crap out of her horse. Maybe after you get a few more responses, you could show this thread to your friend and let her see for herself what some more experienced horse-people have to say.

    She is trying to do way too much way before she is ready. I personally don't think she is ready to be beyond a trot because she doesn't know how to sit quietly on a horse. She has no sublety to her cues and a good rider should be very subtle. When I watch the video, all I see is flying arms and legs and yanking reins and no control. I don't mean that she doesn't have control of her horse (though even that is iffy), I mean that she doesn't have control of herself. She is trying to do barrels and jumping and all these other things when she doesn't understand the mechanics of what she is asking her horse to do and therefore doesn't understand when her horse is doing wrong. She would genuinely benefit from some beginning level lessons. Lessons that would slow her down and teach her to communicate with her horse without just pulling them around with the bit, kick to go, and yank to stop. She doesn't need to become a horse whisperer (it would help but isn't necessary), just needs to understand how to feel her horse. How to know when her horse is turning on her forequarters going around a barrel and how to get her back on her rear. That is something that needs to be learned before she ever starts on the pattern. It takes a good horseman to properly handle a barrel horse and keep them from becoming hot, flighty, and sour. She is on a quick route to ruining her horse. Unless she gets help now, there will be too much damage done to ever go back.
    I can't show this thread to her,because she would never forgive me, and she would hate my guts.
    Also, I told her that she should take lessons, but she says she can't afford them. I agree with everything you have said, she thinks she's good just because she can go fast. She doesnt really have any control, and she thinks she is good at jumping, because her horse flied over it at a gallop O.o
    How do I go about telling her do you think? When she does something really bad or wrong, I could point it out, and explain.
    But, she thinks she is better rider than me, when she def. Isnt, and she think she's such a know it all about horses. Whenever I try to correct her, she says "well everyone does it this way.." "My mom said..." "No your wrong.. because......" etc etc. And she ignores me for a day or two depending on what I said to her.

    She has a 4 month old filly now, and she is not good with her either :(
    When I was there, my friend was trying to get the filly up a rocky ledge thingy.. she went up it, and held onto the end of the lead rope and started yanking on it.
    The foal got scared and started backing up. I told her that she is scaring her, and she doesnt understand. I took the lead rope and I stroked the foal on the neck, and comforted her, then I slowly urged her forward by walking with her. When she was hesitant, my friend went behind her, and starting heaving on her butt. Like lifting it in the air! The foal freaked out and tried to kick her.

    Then, she lunged forwards up the ledge. She was freaking out after that and spooking lots. I tried to comfort her.. poor girl :(
    Then, on the cement road, she started cantering her! She ran beside her as she cantered, like the entire way down the road. When I walked her, my friend came running behind her, and the filly went nuts again. OMG.
    Also, her foal has lumps and bumps everywhere on her, when you pet her on her back or on her chest, she groans. Her back is like straight, she has horrible conformation. Her neck is very ewed and looks like a lhama :P
    But, anways I think she is going to ruin that poor filly.. and her mare.

    Her mare, was awesome when she first got her! Now, she is starting to rear, she wont stop, and she spooks easily.

    Its really saddening, my friend has sold 5 horses in the past 2 yrs, because of them being "bad".

    Sorry for the long rant, she just ticks me off sometimes.
         
        11-16-2009, 04:35 AM
      #7
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Oh jeez lol
    She is relying on the reins for balance and defiantly needs to work on softening up her hands. I'm sorry but riding like that will mess a horse up quick,Mentally and physically.

    And I understand what you mean by "telling her in a nice way".I had a friend that was one of the worst riders I have ever seen.I tried talking to her but by that time she had RUINED that poor mare to the point she was untouchable. Luckily she is in a better home now but they had to start back at the basics.
    lol. Her horse is slowly getting messed up. She doesnt even feed her much food somedays, because they "have to get some".. or "they ran out". The other day.. she only fed each horse a handful of hay..
    :(

    Yeah, I do tell her in a nice way.. but she just doesnt want to hear it, she thinks she knows it all, and that im wrong.
    Awww :( Are you still friends with that girl?

    Also.. this a bit personal for me.. but, I don't know if she is even a good friend for me. She lies, makes up stuff all the time, noone ever knows when she is telling the truth, she is horrible with her horse... my parents don't like her, because she is always lying.
    But, she keeps my secrets, she is nice to me, and I have fun being around her (most of the time).
    Im just not sure if she is a friend worth having :(
         
        11-16-2009, 04:38 AM
      #8
    Trained
    Why don't you find another friend? Sometimes with friends or horses it's not a matter of IF you can fix it but is it WORTH it. You're the only one that can answer that.
         
        11-16-2009, 04:41 AM
      #9
    Showing
    I personally think that she needs to have someone wake her up. IMHO, her feelings should come second to the safety of her horses. I can understand that you don't want to loose her as a friend but what will be enough? When the foal breaks her neck or a leg trying to get away? When her mare falls with her because she can't turn a barrel properly, possibly permanently injuring or even killing either herself or the mare? I don't want to sound rude but how much more does it take for someone to say "Enough is enough"? Have you talked to her parents? You might try that and say that you believe she is at a very real risk of being seriously injured because she doesn't know what she is doing. Past that, there really isn't much you can do except keep harping on her. No matter how mad she gets at you, no matter what she says, just keep at it.
         
        11-16-2009, 04:42 AM
      #10
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Why don't you find another friend? Sometimes with friends or horses it's not a matter of IF you can fix it but is it WORTH it. You're the only one that can answer that.
    I have other friends as well.. but she is my best. She is there for me when I need her, and I know that if I ask her to meet me somewhere, she will.
    But, the thing that bothers me, is when she makes up stuff and lies.. I never know when she is telling the truth, and I never want to go places with her, b/c we don't know whats going on.
    I don't think I should stop being her friend, but just not so close.
    My parents think she is a bad influence on me, as she doesnt care about rules, she never wears a helmet when riding, everything is HER way.
    I am a good kid though, and what she does doesnt affect me, but Im scared it might.. and I don't wanna turn like her.
         

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