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post #1 of 10 Old 01-12-2011, 08:10 PM Thread Starter
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Please Critique Robertooo! :) u/s & o/f & confo

Soooo I haven't been on here in a while and was wondering if I could get a critique on Robertooo! :) He's 6 now, turning 7 soon, 16.2hh dutch warmblood that I do hunters with. :)
He and I have been doing alright lately. I'm not riding as much as I want cause of university and he's been sick with a chest infection, but other than that he's still the super star he's always been. ;)
I have some confo shots of him from when I first got him (just about 2 years ago) and some that were taken in the late summer. :) u/s and o/f were from about 2 months ago when I started uni and lost a bit of time riding haha.



o/f with my friend riding him, her horse was lame :(




o/f (a bit older sorry!):


Confo before...he was soooo dark haha and such a baby:

Confo after:

...and just cause he's so cute. ;)

Thanks guys! :) :)

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post #2 of 10 Old 01-12-2011, 08:33 PM
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Over fences the main things that are sticking out to me is your leg falling back and your butt being too high out of the saddle. Remember to keep your toes in, heels down and that should help keep your leg underneath you. Because your leg has gone back, its also pushed yourself further out of the saddle then you need to be. All you really need to do at that jumop height is pivot from the hips and push yourself slightly out of the saddle. Its easier said than done though, because the jumping motion of the horse often pushes people further out of the saddle then they think they are.

For the one under saddle photo, you need to sit tall and keep your elbows in. I know you're probably jumping him in that photo, but it would be good to see him pushed up into the bridle more. It looks like your holding his head in that position.

As far as conformation goes, I'm hopeless at that, so thats best left for the experts on here. I do like his ears though :)
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post #3 of 10 Old 01-12-2011, 08:39 PM
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O/F you seem to get a little ahead sometimes and dont keep your butt close enough to the saddle, but overall you two look very good. He is super duper cute! Confo. wise he looks a little butt high, but not much, he has very nice legs and a nice long neck. good luck!
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post #4 of 10 Old 01-12-2011, 11:15 PM
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He actually has really good overall confo ;)
Can't pick out any major flaws.

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post #5 of 10 Old 01-13-2011, 10:15 AM
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I love your horse...The main thing I notice in your jumping photos is that your foot is turned too far out which is making you grip with the back of your calf. And you are jumping ahead. Other than that you two look great.

That's one of the things I like about Dutch Warmbloods, most of them have really good conformation.
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post #6 of 10 Old 01-14-2011, 01:22 AM
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No critique from me :) you two look great.
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post #7 of 10 Old 01-14-2011, 02:03 AM
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I'm not sure if it's just me, but he seems to hang his legs when going over fences.

He is very cute!

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post #8 of 10 Old 01-14-2011, 07:07 PM
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He's stunning! As others have said, you're jumping ahead a bit. Your leg is also sliding back, and you're using the back of your calf rather than the inside. That's a horrible habit to break. It took me almost a year... What I found works is over-correcting your leg/toe on the flat. Of course over correcting is never good, but if you try to strengthen those muscles more, it helps break the habit quicker. Once the muscles are stronger you can keep your foot in a correct position and it will be much easier. (By the way, don't practice an over-correction too much becuase, obviously, then you end up with a different problem!) I can't pick anything on your u/s other than your toe. I think someone else had said to lean back, but I do hunters and your upper body looks exactly right.
For your horse, he doesn't seem to tuck all that great over jumps. In the second picture after the one with your friend on him, you can especially notice this. His legs aren't straight and his knees aren't tucked up enough. He looks like a gorgeous mover. The only thing I see with that is he looks like he has a broken neck. If you don't know what that is, google I'm sure has plenty of pictures that could help.
As for conformation, I'm awful at it. However nothing major sticks out at me. It looks like his throatlatch looks a tiny bit thick, but he's a WB, that's how they're built. He looks like his has nice, clean legs. Overall he looks awesome! You're very lucky to have him :)

Worth The Wait <3
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post #9 of 10 Old 01-15-2011, 01:45 PM
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Hmm... there's no easy way to say this, so I'm just going to come out with it.

Can I have your horse? :)

LOL. He is stunning!!!! No critique from me, the others have seemed to cover it.
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post #10 of 10 Old 01-17-2011, 03:22 PM Thread Starter
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Wow, thanks for all the replies guys! :) I'm kinda sucky at critiquing myself so thanks for helping me out! :)

Gidji -- For my leg position, this has been a problem for me for foreverrr haha. I was trained to stick my toes out when I first started riding so once I moved to my new barn (about 2/3 years ago) I've been trying desperately to correct that! I think I've improved quite a bit but I still know I have a ways to go haha. But now when I jump, I'll really focus on keeping my toes forward and having the side of my calf in contact with Robbie's side. :) Also, I can see what your talknig about regarding how high my body is out of the tack haha. Robbie has a hugeeeee jump and I know he pushes me way further out of the saddle then I need to be so I'll try really hard to understate my two point. :)

KennyRogersPaints -- thanks for your critique! Yes, I think he is just built a bit butt high and I'm pretty sure he always will be haha. It's not nearly as bad as 2 years ago, but I'm glad that's the only flaw he has!

ErikaLynn -- Haha, thank you! He's definitely grown up to be a very handsome boy. :) Yeah, I really need to work on my leg position haha. That will be on the top of my list!

Arksly -- Honestly, the only reason why it looks like he hangs his legs is because the jumps aren't big enough for him haha. He's used to jumping bigger then in the pictures, so when we go back to small stuff he gets super lazy and doesnt think they are worth his energy. ;) I know that's not a good habit for him to have, any suggestions on what I can do to help him snap up a bit better over the small stuff??

hflmusicislife -- Thanks so much for the critique and suggestions! I will definitely try and "over-correct" when I hack and on the flat. :) I can see how this would help me be more stable o/f, somebody also suggested having the outer side of the stirrup iron on my pinky toe and the inside on the ball of my foot, kinda giving a diagonal shape outwards? I haven't tried that yet but do you think it would help? :)
As for the tucking problem, he really only does this over smaller jumps haha. We're used to doing 3'6 and above so when we do anything smaller, he decides to put no effort into it at all haha. When we show he tucks gorgeously and the judge's love him, it's only when he feels the jumps are "good" enough for him that he doesn't tuck haha. ;)

haleylvsshammy -- haha thank you! He really is a special boy, but I definitely could not share him haha. ;)

Anybody else?? :)

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