PLease tell me what you think of Sam's conformation!

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        08-14-2008, 07:56 PM
    PLease tell me what you think of Sam's conformation!

    I know Sam needs more muscling, and I know where. Just let me know what you think. I'll work on getting better pics!

    Yeah, I'm standing on him in the above pic

    Please be considerate - I love him to death!
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        08-14-2008, 07:59 PM
    I personally don't know much in the confirmation area, but I would say that it looks like he has a long back.....Just something that stuck out at me right away.
        08-14-2008, 08:24 PM
    From the pictures I really do not see much wrong comformation wise. He does have a long back and since he is lacking in muscle in his topline and croup, it makes him look that much longer. I know that you said you knew he needed some muscles though, other than that, I do not see anything major wrong. His neck is set a little low on his chest, if you show him just make sure you do not raise his head up to high and make his neck looked bowed up. If he is just a pleasure horse to go trailing on, then he is perfect for that! I wish I could stand on my horses back, but I do not have the guts to do it! :(
        08-14-2008, 08:32 PM
    He looks kinda uphill, he does have a nice long back though. ;)
    He has a lot of muscle in his shoulders. He's cute!
        08-14-2008, 09:03 PM
    He has a short croup, and a straight shoulder (i think... im new at this), I think he has a short stifle but I can't really tell
        08-14-2008, 09:15 PM
    Eh... I don't really support the standing on the horses back.. :roll:

    Steep shoulder
    Long pasturns
    Very long back
    Straight croup
    Hollowish back

    Needs more condition on him..
        08-14-2008, 09:49 PM
    Originally Posted by love-a-hero
    Eh... I don't really support the standing on the horses back.
    I have to agree... at least with the placement of exactly WHERE you are standing. You are standing on the lumbar vertebrae, which have very long and very rigid processes that have relatively no give; ribs are attached to vertebrae with cartillage, which makes them relatively "sproingey" but the lumbar vertebrae have rigid processes, so right where you are standing is probably the worst spot to put pressure on a horse's back.
    If you can get your hands on this book: "Tug Of War: Classical Versus Modern Dressage" I hightly recommend you flip through and read bits and pieces from the anatomy section... it's a great read.
    Anyways, that was just more to educate than anything. I didn't realize that was the reason to not put pressure on that area of the back 'till I read that book.
        08-15-2008, 09:30 AM
    He's kinda skinny.
    Sickle Hocked.
    Ewe neck.
    Straight croup.
    He seems like an angel though.
        08-15-2008, 05:22 PM
    I knew someone would say sickle hocked, but I have no idea what it is.....please explain!!

    He's skinny because he was really mal-nourished, and was half dead when they bought him - skin, bones, and fuzzy hair, with a ragged blanket on his back.

    I stood on his back twice, but not for long - only to pose for a pic the first time, and the second time I was wearing different shoes, so I was only up there for half a second because I was slipping!! That would have really hurt.

    I don't think he was worked with much before these people bought him, so he kinda got an upside-down neck.

    I think the straight croup is an Arab trait, because he's a thouroughbred (explanation of his long back, which I like!)

    In the second pic, he's resting his right-hind hoof, which is something he does all the time. And, there's a phone line running anong the ridge of his back - I don't know if you can all see it - but that makes him seem sway-backed to me, and because I was standing on his back made him hollow it out a bit.

    Despite the steep shoulder, he loves to jump!! Pipes, bushes, logs, he'll jump anything below his knees when we gallop - he loves to run, too, being an ottb.

    He is an absolute sweety!! He was really headshy when I first started riding him, and now he lets me brush flies off his face with my whip and he lets me touch his ears, which never happened when we first met.

    I ride him in a running martingale, which really improves his headset. I have only been riding him since, oh, the beginning of summer, which seems like forever ago, but it really has only been about two months (seems like longer...).

    Thanks, guys. I myself couldn't see anything drastic that couldn't be fixed, but I thought that was because I loved him to much to find his faults!
        08-15-2008, 09:04 PM
    Green Broke
    Standing on his back, with it being long, not a good idea. Standing on their back should only be done by people who know how and where to stand - sorry for the lecture, but it's just a bad idea.

    He definitely needs some groceries.

    He doesn't have a very good shoulder. And he needs more muscling in his hind quarters.

    Nice looking head.

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