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        01-21-2011, 01:04 PM
      #31
    Banned
    Canandy, being down hill is pretty normal for a young one. Horses typically grow butt first. They get butt high then their withers catch up and they are level for a bit and then they get butt high again.

    Hopefully in the end they end up level.

    At his age it is pretty impossible to tell if he is butt high because he is growing or because that is his conformation.
         
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        01-21-2011, 02:11 PM
      #32
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by TheSeeker    
    Yes when the time is correct he will be separated from my mare, but currently he doesn’t act the least bit studish and my mare wouldn’t have any of that anyways. He more looks at her as if she is his mom, but in the next little while they WILL be separated.
    Glad to here that you are going to separate them. I would do it sooner rather then later as the way they act when you are present (like you stated) is no guarantee that he wont breed your mare or she wont stand for it. There are many, many cases of stud colts breeding their dams. As long as at least on testicle is there, he can and will breed her when she is in heat.

    I will leave it at that. The others have pretty much summed up his confo.
         
        01-21-2011, 06:42 PM
      #33
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NdAppy    
    Glad to here that you are going to separate them. I would do it sooner rather then later as the way they act when you are present (like you stated) is no guarantee that he wont breed your mare or she wont stand for it. There are many, many cases of stud colts breeding their dams. As long as at least on testicle is there, he can and will breed her when she is in heat.

    I will leave it at that. The others have pretty much summed up his confo.
    Well the mare he is with is not his dam. And he is also only 8 months old. Give the next two months and he will be separated, but as of currently I am not worried about it as he hasn't even tried anything of the sort. And there is a gentleman who watches them throughout the day so if he saw anything like that I know he would separate them then and there. It really isn't a concern of mine atm. Like I have said though he WILL be separated from my mare within the next few months. I will probably get him to be put out with the geldings as I want him to socialize with other horses while he is young.
         
        01-21-2011, 06:53 PM
      #34
    Foal
    He's got very nice conformation and it looks like he's easy to keep clean (which is good because of his white legs). This little guy will surely go far!
         
        01-21-2011, 07:04 PM
      #35
    Trained
    Just because he isn't acting studdy right now doesn't mean he won't try to breed on your mare's next cycle. Most "whoops" babies occur because owner's believe the colt is too young.

    I agree with Always. He is adorable, and will likely make a great little gelding. But it is highly unlikely he will grow out of the long upright pasterns, nor the posty hind legs that Cori [?] mentioned.
         
        01-21-2011, 07:10 PM
      #36
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by candandy49    
    Even though he is still so young he is a very handome boy. The overo is also my favorite of the Paint/Pinto coat patterns. He is what they call downhill as for the higher rump than the withers. In the QH and QH/Paints they both are more downhill than say the TB, who are uphill in that they are taller at the withers than the rump. I am glad you had him tested for HYPP and HERDA. He has the QH Impressive on his top side who was found to be the one to pass HYPP in his bloodlines. He goes back to Poco Bueno also on the topside. He is the sire who was the first found to pass HERDA to his offspring. As for keeping him intact, not gelding him, his potential as a breeding stallion really couldn't be determined until he has his full growth. Going by bloodlines alone is not a practical answer to the question of using him for breeding. By the way, he does have a lot of good horses in his pedigree.
    Thanks for the info :)
    And yes I am aware that Impressive is in his Pedigree and Poco Bueno and that HYPP and HERDA traces to each. He actually goes back to Poco Bueno on both top and bottom of his pedigree as well as Leo. So I most definitely got him tested. I wouldn't even consider leaving him as a stallion without getting him tested. He is negative for both.
    As for him being bum high I am hoping he levels out...but not to soon! I want him to grow as much as possible!!!
    I am also not going for breeding just for bloodlines. I just want to be sure I wouldn't be breeding a unhealthy, unsound horse. A few minor faults I can deal with as long as they are not serious. He has a few years to grow and fill out before I even consider breeding him as I plan on training him and have him going nicely under saddle before he is ever bred. If he is ever bred.
    Maybe I will revisit this topic once he has had time to grow out of his awkward stage and has filled out. That way more things are set in stone before deciding on his future as a breeding stallion.

    I would like however to hear what disciplines everyone thinks he may fair well in! I am hoping to train him for barrels despite his high set hocks, but would love to hear more what would be some good disciplines to try with him!
    Thanks again everyone for all the info and critique so far!
         
        01-21-2011, 07:28 PM
      #37
    Foal
    Ok can we please move away from how my colt is kept with other horses? I am WELL AWARE of what you are all already saying. Fact is fact though. I will be moving him soon. End of that story. Thanks.

    Can we please stay more on topic? About conformation and potential disciplines? I have already stated he won't be bred for some time if ever. I do NOT MIND if he will be proud cut. As ALL my animals I keep for life unless it is what is best for them, but I have NO PLANS on ever selling either of my horses and I am comfortable that I can handle him being proud cut if it came down to it. I will wait to see just how he grows and how he fairs in the show ring. In the end THAT will be what makes me decide if he is gelded or not.
    I do realize him being this young, less then perfect pictures, not setting him up, and the fact he is still growing and a bit awkward atm it might have been best to wait until he grows into himself a little more to ask if he is stallion worthy. I will think over what ever one has said and when he gets older I WILL apply what everyone has said and see if it still does apply to him as an adult. I will also see if it is something that will be livable and can maybe be countered with the choice of mares etc.
    If I find he has not grown out of the majority of these things, he fails any up coming health tests, or that he does not do well in the show ring I will geld him. However, with that said he will NOT be gelded before 2 years old unless he becomes seriously aggressive! I have time and am in no hurry to rush things so I will wait to see just how he ends up turning out.

    I will be making a list of the faults everyone has stated. I will check to see if it is something he grows out of or not and will keep tabs on it.
    Thanks everyone for the critique.

    Now what disciplines might he be suited for? Anyone?
         
        01-22-2011, 01:34 AM
      #38
    Foal
    What test is that? I have an 8 month old colt also...just wondering:) He's adorable BTW.
         
        01-22-2011, 02:01 AM
      #39
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cloudkisser    
    What test is that? I have an 8 month old colt also...just wondering:) He's adorable BTW.
    HYPP and HERDA?
    HYPP = Hyperkalemic periodic paralysis which is traced to the horse Impressive.
    Here is a site with some info: Impressive

    HERDA = Hereditary Equine Regional Dermal Asthenia which is traced to Poco Bueno and possibly Zantanon and King.
    HERDA

    Another which is good to test is for OWLS. I will be doing this eventually as well if he is to stay a stallion.

    And thanks :)
    Your colt is gorgeous!!! Mine had a sibling that looks just like yours! Almost bought him, but I wanted the sorrel overo ;)
         
        01-22-2011, 03:51 PM
      #40
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheSeeker    

    . I do NOT MIND if he will be proud cut.
    Sorry but what does him being proud cut have anything to do with anything, unless your vet is bad at gelding.
         

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