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post #41 of 61 Old 01-22-2011, 05:19 PM
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He's very pretty. I cant tell much of anything about his confo in the photos provided. He looks to be a tad toed out on the front and cowhocked in the rear. None of which are serious and really shouldnt affect his performance career b/c they are not extreme. A horse that is slightly cow hocked is actually preferred in a barrel or performance horses vs. one with straight hocks. His pasterns are very long. Long pasterns = a smooth ride, but they are also more likely to develop arthritis and are more prone to injury.

Seeker, do you mind sharing what his diet is?

As far as pedigree, it is average. There is nothing in his pedigree that says stallion material. With his pedigree and confo combined, IMO, he would make a good gelding.

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post #42 of 61 Old 01-22-2011, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry but what does him being proud cut have anything to do with anything, unless your vet is bad at gelding.
Being proud cut doesn’t have anything to do with how they are gelded, but more when. Since if I were to geld him it wouldn't be until later (since I plan to let him grow and muscle up anyway) he could very well already have the studish attitude and gelding them at that point doesn’t guarantee to take away that behaviour. So if he were to be gelded and was very studish and ended up keeping that attitude he would just be a gelding who acted like a stallion. He just wouldn't be able to get a mare pregnant.
I only mentioned it so people wouldn’t end up saying “if you end up gelding him and its that late he could be proud cut and you will have this and this problem”. I wanted them to know that I am okay with that and am prepared to deal with it if it came down to it. That’s the reason I mentioned it.
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Being proud cut doesn’t have anything to do with how they are gelded, but more when. Since if I were to geld him it wouldn't be until later (since I plan to let him grow and muscle up anyway) he could very well already have the studish attitude and gelding them at that point doesn’t guarantee to take away that behaviour. So if he were to be gelded and was very studish and ended up keeping that attitude he would just be a gelding who acted like a stallion. He just wouldn't be able to get a mare pregnant.
I only mentioned it so people wouldn’t end up saying “if you end up gelding him and its that late he could be proud cut and you will have this and this problem”. I wanted them to know that I am okay with that and am prepared to deal with it if it came down to it. That’s the reason I mentioned it.

Your definition of 'proud cut' and the actual definition are completely different.

The whole "proud cut" thing is a myth. a gelding that acts studdish needs his testosterone levels checked as he may have a problem with his adrenal glands or more than likely just needs to be handled in a different way and taught some respect.
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post #44 of 61 Old 01-22-2011, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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Your definition of 'proud cut' and the actual definition are completely different.

The whole "proud cut" thing is a myth. a gelding that acts studdish needs his testosterone levels checked as he may have a problem with his adrenal glands or more than likely just needs to be handled in a different way and taught some respect.
Well thats not what other breeders have told me (that I know here) and what the vet and farrier have also told me. They ALL told me what I have already stated.
Either way though I am prepared to deal with any extra problems that gelding him late might throw at me.
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Your definition of 'proud cut' and the actual definition are completely different.

The whole "proud cut" thing is a myth. a gelding that acts studdish needs his testosterone levels checked as he may have a problem with his adrenal glands or more than likely just needs to be handled in a different way and taught some respect.

I was always told what seeker said. A lot of stallions that are gelded late often remember what it was like and never change.
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post #46 of 61 Old 01-22-2011, 08:37 PM
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I just want to add he is super cute. Great pictures!
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Theres no problems to gelding him a little later in life if you want to show him and see if he will be good enough to stay a stallion. Just be consistant in his training and keep him respectful

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Theres no problems to gelding him a little later in life if you want to show him and see if he will be good enough to stay a stallion. Just be consistant in his training and keep him respectful
Agreed 120%
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He's very pretty. I cant tell much of anything about his confo in the photos provided. He looks to be a tad toed out on the front and cowhocked in the rear. None of which are serious and really shouldnt affect his performance career b/c they are not extreme. A horse that is slightly cow hocked is actually preferred in a barrel or performance horses vs. one with straight hocks. His pasterns are very long. Long pasterns = a smooth ride, but they are also more likely to develop arthritis and are more prone to injury.

Seeker, do you mind sharing what his diet is?

As far as pedigree, it is average. There is nothing in his pedigree that says stallion material. With his pedigree and confo combined, IMO, he would make a good gelding.

Before he was weaned he was just turned out to pasture as far as I know (in the first pics) and free fed. Then when he was weaned I believe the breeder was feeding him hay and a little grain. Since coming here he has been kept in a pen since he was not sure of people and I have been working with him. However, the weather here is yo-yoing so there is a lot of ice and it isn’t safe to work with him a lot at the moment so his muscle has gone down more, but it had already started when he arrived. Currently he gets fed what all the other horses are fed: high quality hay.
I do not believe in feeding horses grain unless they are working a lot under saddle and need it to help keep the weight on or are hard keepers, and I assure you he isn’t having any problem keeping weight on. IF however, you breeders think he needs some grain and I get enough people saying so then I will go buy him some.
Here is a pic of the day he FIRST arrived. As you can see his muscle was already STARTING to go as I got him from Alberta in the winter and unless you have an indoor the weather they have been having just isn’t the weather to work with a horse. It has since gone down more due to lack of exercise (again thank the weather) and he has gotten much more winter fuzz!! His winter coat is at least an inch think currently. Spring is fast approaching and I plan on doing LOTS of muscle building with him in the coming months! As well as giving him a bath and clipping him if needed.



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Theres no problems to gelding him a little later in life if you want to show him and see if he will be good enough to stay a stallion. Just be consistant in his training and keep him respectful
Good to know
I do plan on waiting to see what the future holds and so he gets the muscles so its great to hear that
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