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        03-20-2009, 09:05 PM
      #1
    Yearling
    Exclamation >>Possible buy, need help with price offer!<<

    Talking with the owner tonight! So I am really looking for some help here!

    This mare is probably going to go to the sale! So we are going to take this chance and make a 'steal offer' she is up for sale on my BO's website price set at 4500 but the horse has had no bites. The BO is tired of having horses that are sitting and not making any money (its her horse, so its not bringing in board) This mare was a project horse, BO got it for free. Had bucking issues and what not, was abused. Came a long way but just had a HUGE set back with the BO and Goldie bit her right under the eye (not on purpose trying to bite at the other mare) but now Goldie will not come up to her and the BO is tired of the horse and wants to take her to sale...
    So now that you know some history on why she might be going to sale, how much do you think she will sell at? And how much would you make an offer for? She still needs some work,ect. But my mom and I would share her. I would show, jump her and my mom would use her for trail rides.
    I would like to offer 1500 but since she will end up at sale I would like to fish for a lower price... what do you all think? Oh and I also forgot to mention we want a 30 day trail, just in case we want to back out for any reason. But we REALLY like this mare she's so darn sweet, she just needs a mommy ... lol so she can have two!

    Here is the info on her sale page:
    8 yo Palomino mare, QH cross, 15.1 hands. Training level dressage, started over fences, natural horsemanship foundation, trail ridden. Smooth, fluid gaits. Would make a great Equitation horse! Easy to handle, no vices, very personable.

    $4,500


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        03-20-2009, 09:14 PM
      #2
    Foal
    I would just go to the sale and buy, I asume your talking auction, if the auction are anything like around my part of the world you may get her real cheap.
         
        03-20-2009, 09:26 PM
      #3
    Yearling
    We werent looking to buy another horse. But when we heard that she would be going to the sale/auction we jumped. We really like her and don't want her even going there. And we work for the BO so we can work things our with her and what not. Plus if we bought her at sale we wouldnt be able to have the 30 day trail.
    There just isnt any point in buying her at the sale and we don't want to buy another horse. This is it or nothing, until next winter when I put my horse for sale after show season.

    Edit: Yah the auctions around here are awfull every thing isnt selling or its selling for dirt cheap. That's why Im asking for help on a price. We want a good deal, since she's going to sale.... Does that make sence? Lol
         
        03-20-2009, 09:33 PM
      #4
    Trained
    No it doesn't......

    Assuming you were going to offer $1500~

    IMO you should go to the auction and pay pennies on the dollar. The last nice horse I saw at auction ( Papered to the hilt/ there was no mention of papers on the horse you're looking at.) went for $1050... that's almost $500 still in your pocket for horse care.

    If no one bites at the auction you could buy her as cheap as $300-$400... IF the owner wants more, you could still buy her AFTER the auction for what the bottom dollar at the auction was.

    (Some horse owners at the last auction I went to said that they needed like $600 for the horse and it was only bid up to $400...So the owner said NO SALE and took the horse home.... if this is the case at the auction, you can go buy her the next day for $600 and save $900 instead of offering her $1500 up front...

    Make sense??
         
        03-20-2009, 09:51 PM
      #5
    Foal
    If their planing on taking it to a bad aution maybe they will just give her to you, have looked at a lot of horses that were advertised for 1500.00 and up took two home for free one was a first class jumper, the other was a apendix qh mare fastest horse I ever rode, owners really just wanted them to go to a good home
         
        03-20-2009, 09:52 PM
      #6
    Banned
    First of all in todays market and what she is with the training and size she is actually worth about $2,000.00 maximum. Her price of $4,500.00 is unrealistic. Dressageappy (member here) purchased her horse recently (15.3 Appy) WITH solid level 1 almost level 2 training for $3500.00 with saddle.

    If you calculated from there an offer to buy outside of auction in the $1,300.00 to 1,600.00 range would be a decent offer.

    At auction it will always depend on who is going but with what seems to be the going price I would not be surprised to see her go for $500.00 to $1,000.00 ( she is in good flesh and is pretty and seems sound).

    So you have two options from what I see....make an offer to the owner before auction stating that you would rather not see her go through the trauma of auction (it can be bad).

    Or let her go there and with what you would have offered buy her from the auction and maybe save yourself a bit of money.
         
        03-20-2009, 09:56 PM
      #7
    Showing
    I agree with Amy... if you're willing to take the chance, buy her at auction. (By take the chance I mean no 30 day trial period.) If she doesn't work out, then perhaps you'll save some money on the initial purchase price, market her right ($4500 for a rescue case still needing work is waaaay overpriced in my opinion) and you might actually make a buck on her.
    Chances are your BO is going to set a price that's higher than she'll fetch at the auction.. people are like that.
         
        03-20-2009, 10:06 PM
      #8
    Weanling
    I would take my chances at the auction, chances are you will get her for a much much lower price. If you are willing to go 1500 you already know what your limit is so I see it as a win/win situation get the mare and possibly have a lot of money left over or get the mare for what you were willing to give in the first place..it all works out
         
        03-20-2009, 10:52 PM
      #9
    Yearling
    Thanks guys for all your help! She called a little while ago and my mom made the offer of 1500 and she said no! That she doesnt think it would be a good idea because my mom is a beginner. But I would be the one finishing the horse so my mom could ride her (moms taking lessons now) and its not like I havent finished a horse. If I had another place in line to board or I had my own field I would go to the auction and buy her! But since I don't I can't go to auction and bring the horse back to the barn. I would probably be fired! Lol

    Its such a shame to because the horse has a lot of potential. Just no one is willing to give her a chance. Well she had one girl who's been at the barn forever. But she was going to buy Goldie on a payment plan, and since she was being worked goldie made huge improvments.The horse needs consistancy and a good handler who isnt going to use a strong hand like the BO.

    Oh and she wont put a reserve on Goldie either its just going to be a drop off,send the check in the mail. Type of thing. That's usually what she does when she gets fed up with horses either not selling, over priced as you guys can see. Or they are just going out of control cause they are on a high grain diet which she has ALL her horses on and not being worked just turned out in a padock.

    Oh well I hope the horse finds a good home at auction but you just never know.

    OH yah heres a funny thing, ok so im in a dinky rink town with just this one barn that im at it doesnt get alot of traffic or any thing like that. But the barns website has a sale page. All the horses are english/dressage and yet NONE of them are on dreamhorse or listed any place els. And my BO is upset cause no one is selling. Lol! Oh wait correction only one horse is listed on dreamhorse but no pics.... O_O How do you expect them to sell???
    Here is the sale page
    Sale Horses
         
        03-20-2009, 11:13 PM
      #10
    Yearling
    OMG! I JUST WENT ON DREAMHORSE! OK WELL NOW IM JUST UPSET!

    Here is Goldies ad: posted last night..
    DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1376516 - Goldie

    She's LISTED AT 800! The barn owner just told us it would not be a good idea because she will still buck! It says nothing about bucking! "walk, trot, canter" Um im sorry but if a horse bucks at the canter, doesnt that mean it can't canter with rider yet? I mean isnt that why they write walk trot canter so you know you can ride it w/t/c? Am I wrong? AND 800 we offered 1500! Holy Moly. Im not going to look at their website again for prices.

    And if I am not suitable for the horse with all my background and working at this barn for three years with weekly lessons on horse 101, and ground work training and under saddle training. And she doesnt think I could handle the horse, yet she has the skill/potential for 4-h, pony club. If the horse bucks don't market it toward younger kids, or teens who are in the clubs. And Im not meaning the kids who broke their first pony at ten...lol.
    OH and you know what els gets me! Is that I've been riding for quite some time now I mean in total for about 5 1/2 yrs, yah I took a break in there but I still kept it up. And she had a lesson kid on this horse! That's one reason why I was interested in Goldie. AND OH MAN! She said that the horse is GREEN so put it in the ad! The ad makes the horse sound like she has been finished and just had a looong break. You know I just don't think its an honest ad, what about you?
         

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