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post #1 of 30 Old 07-21-2011, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
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Talking Possible buy, Please critique! TB/WB Jumper/dressage prospect

I am going to go look at this handsome young boy on tuesday.
Picture and Videos are attached!!!

- Schooling 18''-2'6 and some flat work atthe end.

- XC schooling

Meet HighMark, 15.1 5 year old seal bay(almost black) WB/TB cross
He has been under saddle for the last 5 months with a wonderful trainer. He is not regesterd.

I know his Sire and he is excelling in the dressage show arena doing 3rd level at this time.

He is priced at 3,000.00 but she is going to lower the price for me.
He has hada pre purchess ex. this last April. Felxed a 0 and Xrays are 100% clean.

I really like him cause of his cross and his smaller size.

I want to know what you think of the following:

1. Is he really worth 3,000.00?
2. What do you think of his build and stricture?
3. What do you think of his jumping?
4. With the correct training how fa in jumpers do you think he could go?

This is not my first go around with young horses, I am a very experainced rider and just dont want to go on alone in this.

Thank you
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post #2 of 30 Old 07-21-2011, 06:21 PM Thread Starter
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post #3 of 30 Old 07-21-2011, 06:35 PM
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I think he's a lovely prospect, although I know very little about the jumping circuit. His ground work is impressive for only five months of training, and he looks to be well built. Nice, clean movement, and good form. Love the fact that they've already started him with ditches and water, as those tend to make or break a lot of horses. I also like that he appears to be wearing a snaffle. A few things that I noticed however, was that he seems to rush quite a few of the fences. This could be rider error, but it's still something he would need to work through. He also seems to get a little bumpy when he nears a fence, drawing his head up and shaking it, and overjumped a few rails from 3:30-4:00. Ofcourse, all of this can be corrected, and is rather normal to see in a young one. Still, you would surely have to address it before going into a higher level.

Do I think he's worth 3,000? No. Not in this economy. In Texas you could get $2,000 to 2,500 for him tops. If you're confident in your riding and schooling skills though, and you're willing to work with a trainer, I'd say go atleast try him out! He seems lovely.

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Thank you Endiku!! That is just what I needed to hear!
I see and agree very much with you, I think the head bumping, rushing ect is mostly from being young, green and in-experianced (sorry for bad spelling)
I will be havinga trainer work with me (with whatever young horse I get) But I also wont be jumping him like this till more of the basic are down and he seems more conifdant with himself.
Thank you again!

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I love him. Looks like he has a good mind. He didn't look at any of those XC fences, just jumped them in stride, very relaxed. In my neck of the woods, overpriced northeast, he would get the $3,000. Definitely worth investigating further.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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I am not an expert at this discipline by any means, but I do like him. I am, however, confused. You say he has been under saddle for 5 months, yet the first video is spring of 2010, already doing a course. ????

I would also just say that if a seller told me a horse had already had a PPE, even with the results-my response would be a "thank you, that's nice" and I would go about getting my own.

The rushing, etc, may be green, or may be that they rushed his training a bt and have missed some basics. As long as you are working with a trainer yourself, you should be able to sort that out.

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I think he is quite nice!
Yes, he is very green. The rider is very tactful with him, yet you see times when he has to be quite strong with the horse. The horse is athletic and shows great promise. If you were to get him, I would back off the jumping for a while. I believe he has been rushed a bit too fast and could go back a few steps. I would go back to trotting fences and doing gridwork until he can regain some calmness in his jumping.

The price? Well...I see horses that sell for 25,000 to 50,00 easy. Some no more talented than that one. The difference is the level of training that, frankly, isn't there yet. 3,000 isn't bad but, with this economy it doesn't hurt to try to bargain. The first price is rarely the only price.

Try him and see if you two "click".

Who is that rider? He is really nice. He has a real eye for distances that I like.

OH, and PLEASE...I'm not saying anything bad about the current owners but...NEVER use their PPE. Get your own.
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Thank you Allison and FranknBeans!
I vrey much agree, I can with ease tell you if this fella works out I will be taking it down a notch with him not only to get more basics but to create a strong bond. I am so tired have having horses and having them for only 2-3 seasons cause it just doesnt work, along with some leases that were poop to be frank.

Allison, i would for sure be doing my own PPE, tottally worth the money for such a great correct prospect!

I too was confused tothe 5 months but started over fences, They must have messed the year up or somthing cause I have been emailing the owner back and forth for 3 days now and its is very clear to that the horse has only been working undersaddle for 5 months. The trainer is Sarah somthing she owns and runs Stone Throw Farm in woodinville WA, he is right now at the owners house cause even after everyone telling this lady to keep him in training she didnt listen and he did a warmblood move or small buck and she has now somehow come off this horse 3 times, along with her friend who came off 2 times, thus being why he is for sale. I talked to the trainer, horse has no back issues, soundess issues when with her andits only been 4 weeks since then. The trainer was very diapointed with the owner for not fallowing along with the so said plan with training. She gave me a very strong impression that the owner got in over her head and its either her 1st horse of for sure 1st very young green horse, and for that being a wb adds alot more onto that as well.

Thank you again so very very much! I wil keep you all posted!
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Sorry - a bit off topic, but what does PPE stand for?
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