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post #11 of 40 Old 11-18-2010, 02:30 AM
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The horse is cute... does your trainer recommend her for you?
Does the $750 include board? What all does it include? Generally a lease is 1/3 the horse's value. While I do like the horse, she doesn't impress me that much in this video. I don't think she would be the right match for someone who doesn't have a lot of jumping experience. (just judging by this one video)
I can't really tell if she is strong and doesn't have the best mouth, or the rider is too heavy handed. Or both.
It won't hurt to try her... but I would look at other horses too.
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post #12 of 40 Old 11-18-2010, 02:32 AM
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What is your level of riding experience?

She seems pretty flat and on the forehand to me. Is it a free lease or...?
I think she is jumping flat because she isn't getting much of a release....
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The horse is cute... does your trainer recommend her for you?
Does the $750 include board? What all does it include? Generally a lease is 1/3 the horse's value. While I do like the horse, she doesn't impress me that much in this video. I don't think she would be the right match for someone who doesn't have a lot of jumping experience. (just judging by this one video)
I can't really tell if she is strong and doesn't have the best mouth, or the rider is too heavy handed. Or both.
It won't hurt to try her... but I would look at other horses too.
It's a half lease and it includes board, groom service and 18 rides pre month.
I haven't ridden her but when i'm ready to make a final choice on leasing I will be trying her and others. Which I will post as well. :]
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It's a half lease and it includes board, groom service and 18 rides pre month.
I haven't ridden her but when i'm ready to make a final choice on leasing I will be trying her and others. Which I will post as well. :]
Hmmm. What about other costs, such as shoeing and vet care? Who pays for that? I think that is a steep price for this horse.. but again, I am only looking at a short video.
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I am going to have to respectfully disagree with some of the other posters.

What I saw in the video was a *very* made, very ridable Chidlren's Jumper. Perhaps the other posters were looking for something that would go more like a hunter? I like this horse very much, and I particularly like how adjustable she was and how she's taking care of the rider. She looks to be a great first show horse for the jumpers, to build a rider's confidence and show them the ropes. Looks like she's also capable of advancing under the right rider as she can clearly handle more height.

$750./month is not outrageous for board + lease fee for something capable of doing rated shows. Show barn board in my area is at least $500./month, $250/month on top of that for an experienced show horse seems pretty reasonable to me.

For a pleasure horse or a local show horse, yes, it's a lot of money. Horses capable of qualifying kids for indoors lease for lots more.

If you like her when you ride her, and your trainer thinks it's a good fit, I say go for it. The great thing about leasing is that if it's not all that you expected or not working, you can always terminate the lease and go on to the next option.

Good luck!
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Several folks ninja posted in front of me; thanks for the clarification about the cost.

Still think the horse is a good choice to introduce a child or junior to the jumper divisions.

Will withold any other opinion about price as I don't know what's common in your area or in your barn.
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that's a normal reasonable price for my barn, It's an A show barn they travel all over the country and out of the country to show. Just about every person there isn't hurting for money at the moment. My parents want to put me on a horse that I can learn on and grow with until i'm ready to handle a more challenging ride. That said my family does not have a ton of money so 750 is a bit pricey. Thank you Maura for your input and thank you everyone else.
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I agree with maura...I would lease that horse in a second.
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I am going to have to respectfully disagree with some of the other posters.

What I saw in the video was a *very* made, very ridable Chidlren's Jumper. Perhaps the other posters were looking for something that would go more like a hunter? I like this horse very much, and I particularly like how adjustable she was and how she's taking care of the rider. She looks to be a great first show horse for the jumpers, to build a rider's confidence and show them the ropes. Looks like she's also capable of advancing under the right rider as she can clearly handle more height.

$750./month is not outrageous for board + lease fee for something capable of doing rated shows. Show barn board in my area is at least $500./month, $250/month on top of that for an experienced show horse seems pretty reasonable to me.

For a pleasure horse or a local show horse, yes, it's a lot of money. Horses capable of qualifying kids for indoors lease for lots more.

If you like her when you ride her, and your trainer thinks it's a good fit, I say go for it. The great thing about leasing is that if it's not all that you expected or not working, you can always terminate the lease and go on to the next option.

Good luck!
I totally agree with you... the price doesn't scare me. Now that it's not 2 a.m. I am thinking better and totally agree...... board at my trainer's was $750.
I guess I was more concerned with the fact that it looks like the horse is a touch strong. I respect your opinion; that said, what did you think about that? Strong (ish) horse, or heavy handed rider? Or do I need to watch it again?
The OP says she has only been jumping a few months.
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I don't think $750/mo is outrageous. The area I am in now that would be pricey, but in my hometown in North New Jersey, that price for a horse like this would be incredibly reasonable! I would definitely find out about vet/farrier fees. Also, does the lease fee include lessons? As in, are any of your 18 rides per month in lessons, or are they all simple flat rides by yourself? If it includes lessons, then that's a pretty awesome deal!

She looks very cute and sweet, with a kind eye and very good form. I think in the video, the rider is not giving her the right amount of release, so she is carrying her head a little high and jumping slightly flat. That being said, she is jumping the height beautifully, and I'm sure with a little release she would be even more athletic and able! She doesn't look strong or out of control, and seems like a wonderful horse to introduce anyone to jumpers. I say go for it!!
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