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        12-20-2010, 06:40 PM
      #11
    Foal
    I'm in Eastern Ontario. I can travel in that area and nearby, including the US, if necessary for the right horse. I want a hunter/jumper prospect. I don't mind a project horse. I'd ideally like to upgrade something. My budget is around $1000-$2000, although I do have more if necessary to spend. I don't want to spend alot on the initial purchase, as I want this to be more of a horse "flip" so to speak, hence I want to buy something with unused potential and develop it into a riding horse that I can eventually sell or use myself. I'd like to rescue or help out a horse in need, but I know that can be difficult with my requirements.

    I don't mind a greenbroke horse. If it's already started, then obviously that's better. I want a conformationally sound animal and mentally sound as well. Agewise, I like 4 years and up and 15HH and up sizewise. Not particular about sex, just no stallions. I like warmbloods and TB's, although I'm not that breed specific.

    Overall, I'm pretty open. I'm not in a huge rush to purchase and I am willing to wait around for the right horse. I don't have much of an eye for conformation, so I'll need help there. I do have help both in person (my trainer now), but I'd like to use this forum as a secondary tool to get the opinions of some great horsepeople.
         
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        12-20-2010, 07:34 PM
      #12
    Trained
    If you are not in a hurry, personally I would wait. Just don't like the one you posted, and I think for the $$ you can do better. They tend to go down in price in jan/feb, from what I know. Are you anywhere close to the US border? There are tracks in Saratoga and Fingerlakes, that may have something. Try looking at CANTER, and see what you see.
         
        12-22-2010, 01:04 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    I would pass on this one. To be brutally honest, I wouldn't take him if they paid me the $1100. 9yo, green broke, conformationally awkward and not overly attractive.

    It costs the same to feed and maintain a crappy horse as it does for a good horse, so don't get stuck throwing money after the former!
         
        12-22-2010, 02:07 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Not sure if his feet are long but he doesn't have much heel on the rear. That can cause issues also he looks to have more bumps that protude in his pasterns than normal. I think you could probably adopt a Thoroughbred or get 1 free that is younger and broke somewhat
         
        12-22-2010, 06:30 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Just so that you don't think I am some kind of horse snob, let me explain what similar money will buy you here in Texas. I understand that it may be different in Ontario but at least you will know where I am coming from as I know you are new to this forum.

    $0-$1000 will get you a TB off the track of reasonable conformation, sound, between the age of 4 and 7, with papers and usually UTD on shots, coggins etc etc etc. Whether it is on the lower end of that scale or the higher end will depend on temperament, health status and if you are in the right place at the right time or not.

    $1000-$2000 will get you at TB that has probably finished racing and started some type of schooling between 5 and 8 years old, in good condition, of reasonable temperament, conformation and looks and with aptitude for one or several disciplines. UTD with shots coggins etc.

    $2000-$5000 will get you a TB with more schooling that has probably been out to a few shows successfully whether they were HJ shows, dressage shows or lower levels in eventing. Ages range from 5 years to 12 years depending on experience level. Of course conformation and looks play a role in the price also.

    One last word on TB's and conformation: It is rare to find a truly correct TB as unfortunately they are not bred to encourage correct conformation. They are bred for speed and any conformational flaws that breeding stock may have are not always compensated by selecting the appropriate mate to counteract such flaws. Doesn't mean that they are no good, just means that there are certainly a wide range of conformational flaws seen in this breed. If you are going to look at TB's, in particular look at the pastern angles, length of back, strength of HQ, angle of shoulder and how the neck ties into the chest. If the horse has one or two minor flaws, you can still work with it depending on your intentions and which flaws they are. If you are seeing more than two flaws, I would pass. This horse here has at least four things that bother me, hence my harsh response.

    One final word: My horse at the moment is an OTTB, she has a couple of conformational flaws that I am happy to work with and I paid at the lower end of the 0$-$1000 scale for her in poor condition as a 7yo and no schooling. Just so you know that I am not at all against TB's or project horses. I promise if you post a picture of a horse that looks to be worth the price it is advertised for I will not be as harsh
         
        12-22-2010, 06:47 PM
      #16
    Showing
    I bought my dressage trained 7-yr old OTTB for 850. You can find a much nicer horse for less, IMO. My trainer was just offered a sound, sane OTTB for free because she retired from racing with clean legs and needs a new home. If you know where to look, they're everywhere.
         

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