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post #1 of 7 Old 09-04-2011, 06:08 AM Thread Starter
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Potential Buy?

I'm looking at buying this little mare and I was wondering what you guys thought of her?

I did a bit of research and she's an OTT - only had 2 starts. Her Sire is Happy Giggle, dam is Shy Artist. Her name is Go Scarlett.

I want a horse for both pleasure riding/PC and for competing in SJ and Eventing.

Idealy I wanted a horse on the higher end of 16hh as I'm both tall and in love with biiiiiiiiiig horses - but I really like the sound of this little girl.

Here is a paste of her advert - with identifing details removed of course.

Advert No. ------ 01/09/11 pretty 15.2 TB mare 5yo chest with straight stripe Price: $2000 firm
Grab a fab horse while she is still green and cheap.
Happy Giggle sired, pretty chestmut mare with a stripe.
No trouble to shoe, tie up etc and self loads onto trailer. Quick and nimble on her feet and a fast eager learner.
Has been re-trained from longreining upwards.
Settles at shows, has competed at 75cm after only 2 outings.
Flat work is progressing well, can bend and flex and has started lateral work. She enteres the River without hesitation. Would not look out of place in a show horse ring.
at Monarto practice day whe jumped into water and over brushes, stone walls, went up and down steep gullies and the bank jumps.
With further education price will go up - not down!
This is a mare built for fun.

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post #2 of 7 Old 09-04-2011, 06:14 AM Thread Starter
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post #3 of 7 Old 09-04-2011, 07:01 AM
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she looks very pretty! The video show her looking quite forward in canter so she may be a little runaway at times! If you want to SJ her then watch her in person because here she looks like shes trying very hard, but hasn't properly tucked up. It could just be that photo but i'd double check if you are wanting to jump high. Pretty nice confo but her back feet look a little boxy but give her a go! She could turn out to be a realy nice youngster. Her height shouldn't be too much of a problem so long as she has the heart!


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The video show her looking quite forward in canter so she may be a little runaway at times!
Could this be due to her previous racing training?

I'm going to see her sometime this coming week so will have a look at her jumping then (:

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post #5 of 7 Old 09-04-2011, 07:44 AM
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Could this be due to her previous racing training?

I'm going to see her sometime this coming week so will have a look at her jumping then (:
She seems nothing like what you want. The higher end of 16h but she is only 15.2. She is very green so you will have to put a lot into her to get her where you want. You may have the time but do you really have the experience to bring along a young green horse? All things to consider.

As for price, I don't know your area but a firm $2,000 for a green OTTB is very very high in my area. Going price for that horse here is less then half that. She has been for sale for 9 months - that tells me something.

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post #6 of 7 Old 09-04-2011, 08:25 AM
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She's not too bad. I'm not overly fond of her neck. It is tied in a bit low and she has really built up that under muscle on the neck. Proper training can help build up the top line, however.

I agree that 2,000 seems a bit high for the amount of training, but don't know horse prices Down Under.
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I'm not a fan of her neck but I love her shoulder and that hindquarter looks lovely and powerful. However her hind hooves look very upright and boxy.

I'd like her as a jumper but you'd want to be careful with those hind hooves, and she would need LOTS of correct flatwork (at least a year IMO) to really be what you want her to be.

$2k is a HUGE amount for a green TB off the track. I bought my eventer for that amount and he is considered to be a very well-educated horse.

All in all you say you like them on the higher end of 16hh and this girl is only mid-15hh. She is absolutely not the height you want if she's a full hand smaller than you were looking for. I would go an inch or two but never a whole hand. (that said when I was looking I was looking for something from 14hh up so I couldn't really afford to go much below my ideal height)

Please remember that a 15.2hh horse will move much differently to a 16.2+hh horse.

Regarding her jumping form, she looks like she will be lovely and have great form given the right education. But it would have to be THE RIGHT education, because it's so easy to ruin a horse's form over fences.

Overly forward at canter is a VERY common training issue in OTTB's in Australia because all they are ever taught is to run as fast as they can. Owners here in Aus want the horse to race and race NOW, not in 6 months' time when the trainer's put some proper education on it. It can be fixed but it takes a lot of time and patience.

IMO you would be better off buying a horse that is what you want NOW, rather than one that you hope you might be able to make into the horse that you want. If you want a young/green horse, then great, but if you want something you can take to a show tomorrow, this little girl won't be that horse.
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