Thanks for everyones input.
Im not sure if he has a background westurn pleasure or not, but that would explain it. (i know they've tried reining, barrels, competitive trail, and he's been roped off of)
When I was riding him, he was really tense, and prancy, i think it was because of the bit. It looked like this- (I think my posting was affected by the prancy-ness, because i normally do NOT do that, then again, i could have been sub-conciously doing it, or even a combination of both)
I belive he was prancy because of the bit, it was crazy harsh, and even the guy who owns him, was like "hes afraid of this bit" It looked somewhat like this
Although the one the Paint had, had a longer shank and it was curved more, and it had a curb chain(tightened as tight as it would go)
So because of this, i didn't use any contact with his mouth- so that might explain his head.
If i dont like the horses i go to see this week, im going to go back and ride him in a D-ring snaffle and see if it helps, im also going to ride somewhere with good footing.