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    02-21-2009, 07:03 PM
a pretty good jumping lesson

hi everyone, todays lesson went pretty well.....the first 2 times she jumped the oxer like it was 3 feet!(this is NOT in the video though) and minimum critique is welcome. I will accept it unlike my other thread lol.

i would like to say again, SHE LOOKS LIKE A BUMBLE BEE!!! Lol
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    02-21-2009, 08:16 PM
    02-21-2009, 08:30 PM
You guys were looking really good there Daria. She's becoming a good little jumper!
    02-21-2009, 09:53 PM
Thanks! Im really proud of her!
    02-21-2009, 10:14 PM
Over the fence you need to let your body go with her more, I feel like your staying up right too much and just jumping your butt out of the saddle. You should bend from the hip more. Also I would try not to let her run into the canter before the fence its a bad habit, establish your canter at least before the turn and keep an nice even temp up to and after the fence. Your horse is cute but could use a little work on a head set and rounding out more.
    02-21-2009, 10:25 PM
Thanks, and we werent cantering before the turn because the far corner that the turn is, theres a huge ice puddle on that side of the arena. That's why we werent cantering. When I watched it, I felt that too.i agree about rounding and her headset, but she's only 4 so she's got a lot of time to learn
    02-21-2009, 10:37 PM
I agree with a lot of what you said Huntseat7.
Daria, you do need a more established release and to let her jump up to you, closing your angles. Again, I know she's only 4, but she needs to learn not to poke her nose up in the air. Bad habit :P lol
    02-21-2009, 10:42 PM
Again, I agree, but HOW do I do any of these things? Lol I feel really stupid right now but how?
    02-21-2009, 11:31 PM
I am going to disagree.

How is a Pony, who is 4, turning 5 - supposed to know all this stuff, when she is already being over faced with jumping 3'0" with a green rider on her back?

How can you guys be giving this advice, when the rider is just learning all of this. LacyLove needs to learn strong fundamentals and funtionallity first, on a horse that is "been there done that" so that she can learn and grow as a rider and become this functional rider that she wants to be.

There is no way, she can be transferring her lack of knowledge/experience to a pony with lack of knowledge/experience.

Don't take me the wrong way - you have allot of basics and have allot of potential - but there is allot you need to work on yourself before you should be focusin on a green mount.

Over the fence you need to let your body go with her more, I feel like your staying up right too much and just jumping your butt out of the saddle. You should bend from the hip more.
I disagree - I watched this vid over and over and over...and you can clearly see LacyLove already jumping the fence, before her pony is even a stide to it. She is clearly over bent. Her upper body, is way to forward. She has already tossed her upper body's weight, onto her horses forehand..creating her horses job, to be that much more difficult.

What she is doing, is standing up in her irons over the fence for her base of security, isntead of sitting and waiting for her mount to lift her out of her tack. She is not closing her knee angle, like she should be - instead she is opening her knee angle, and reaching for her toes.

The rider does NOT close the angle - the horse does.

Also I would try not to let her run into the canter before the fence its a bad habit, establish your canter at least before the turn and keep an nice even temp up to and after the fence. Your horse is cute but could use a little work on a head set and rounding out more.
The pony is a baby still and green. If the rider cannot establish seat to legs to hands, how is the pony supposed to? If the rider cannot establish functional form over the fence, how is the pony supposed to?


LacyLove - I know it is exciting that you get to go over fences, and I know it is exciting that you get over them and I know you are very proud of the fact that you are going over 3'0" - but remember, it isn't the height of the fence that counts, it is the quallity.

How well do you do it? That is what counts.

Don't feel stupid, there is no need to. We all can only know what we are taught, and we can only do what we know how to apply. If you aren't taught, how do you know? If you aren't shown, how would you know?

That is why asking questions is so very important. Reaching outside of the box.

I am really going to recommend that you start reading George Morris columns on a regular basis - go to the Practicle Horesman Magazine where you will find his critiques.

This man is a wealth of knowledge, and he is who he is for a reason - he speaks allot about functional form over fences regularily, and I feel he would be a wealth of knowledge for you, for any rider out there - to learn from.

I read his columns religiously and I learn so much from him - so can you.


I am not going to talk about the pony, because he is green - and so are you.

Lets focus on YOU the rider - because you improve, so does your pony.

You are still jumping ahead - you need to learn how to sit and wait for your pony to jump for you, not you for him.

You are still gripping with your knees, you need to open your knees up and allow your heels to do their job, which is anchoring you.

Your seat is coming waaaayyyyyy to far out of the saddle - you need to, again, allow your pony to lift you out of your tack....not you lurching ahead.
Work on pushing your tooshy back towards the cantle.

We need to figure out why you are jumping ahead allot -

- stop looking at the fence. You know the fence is there, your pony knows the fence is there. There is no need to focus on it. Ride your pony, not the fence. Ride your pony's rhythm. Ride your pony's stride. Allow the fence to come to you, not you to it.

Sit, sit, sit, sit, sit and allow your pony to jump the fence.

- No base of security in your lower leg. Your leg is either being way to over active, and not remaining at the girth - or you have no strength in your lower leg to stay at the girth.

Your leg must remain at the girth. You are there to lift, to support and to encourage.

When you are posting your trot, that's fine - but 3/4 strides out, lock and load those legs and your heels at the girth. Knee's open, heels deep and legs locked at the girth.

- Your upper body is anticipating your pony's jump. Once you've learned to lock those legs at the girth, heels deep and no knee pinching - your seat will follow *light and low to your tack* your upper body will follow.

Right now, you are loosing your lower leg due to knee pinching. You aren't allowing your knee's to close *no lower leg stabillity* and lurching yourself up and out of your tack.

You have to realize that you need to AID your pony is doing his job right. Not hinder. You as the rider needs to bring out the best in your animal, and by that, you bringing out the best in yourself.

I already covered allot in your last thread where you posted your vid. I don't think you took much of it in.

You and your pony have allot of work ahead of you - especially flat work. If I were your coach, I would focus allot on flat work instead of over fences, incorportating ground poles and cavaletti's.

Glad you feel you had a better lesson.

It isn't about the height of the fence or getting over it - it is the quallity of the fence that counts.
    02-22-2009, 12:12 AM
Thanks.....but its 2'6 not 3'0.....theres a big difference to me. I said it was like 3 feet. I kind of get what you are saying, but it confuzes me. Can you try to explain it in an easier way to interpret if its not too much to ask for? Sorry im just a kid and I want advice with my riding that's all.

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