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        07-21-2011, 01:26 AM
      #11
    Yearling
    AF :
    I agree that we both need extensive flat work and dressage. I do work on flat 70% of my rides now. I would love to start taking dressage lessons but unfortunately, my stables trainer does not teach dressage, I don't have a truck to haul my horse and trailer and I can't afford for a dressage trainer to come to my stables. =\ So I'm a little stuck.

    Another thing I am stuck with is this impending thing called time hanging over our shoulders. I would love to do a few competitive shows on Jake before I have to cut back. Despite his activity, He's 20 years old this year, and I am afraid time is running out. Now in no way do I want to do anything that will run him down, but honestly I want to be the bad horrible horse owner and not spend 4 years taking the time to try and perfect a horse that probably only has a year or two before the competition level I want to do will be out of reach. It has been this inward battle against time and a training level I can achieve. Now this horse has a forever home, and when he tells me its time to slow down and jump lower and less I will. I want to enjoy him, this old age thing has been becoming a stress of mine.

    I do appreciate you comments, they are all things I am aspiring to work on.

    SD - I agree, more release is needed over the jumps. I am trying hard not to micromanage him with the reins at all anymore, but it is so much of a habit that its proving hard to break. My hands in the clips were more or less telling him to knock it off with the fighting after the jump, out of habit. I know it doesn't help and only makes him harder in the mouth. -sigh- I have so many rooted bad habits with that.

    I'll try what you suggest a little bit. Unfortunately the arena is on 20m/50m? So not a lot of room to randomly put jumps.
         
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        07-21-2011, 10:31 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    He reminds me a lot of my current jumper. He's hellish and unrefined... but he's got scope for days.
    I know I might get hell for this... but have you tried a different bit? I had my guy going in a joke of a snaffle, and he would literally grab the bit and make everything his idea. I now jump him in the gag. (only jumping... when I hack, he goes in the Hunter D). This has made both of our lives quite a bit better. He's 100 times lighter on my hands.
         
        07-21-2011, 10:50 PM
      #13
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    20 years old is not "over the hill" necessarily. In the 1972 Olympics (the only year I bothered to check) the AVERAGE age of the competition horses was 18 years old. These are horses at the very TOP of the game. So, for every nine year old, there was a horse over 18. Your guy is not that bad after all, huh?
         
        07-22-2011, 05:18 AM
      #14
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Oxer    
    he reminds me a lot of my current jumper. He's hellish and unrefined... but he's got scope for days.
    I know I might get hell for this... but have you tried a different bit? I had my guy going in a joke of a snaffle, and he would literally grab the bit and make everything his idea. I now jump him in the gag. (only jumping... when I hack, he goes in the Hunter D). This has made both of our lives quite a bit better. He's 100 times lighter on my hands.
    He is starting to settle into his single jointed D-ring pretty nicely. Its just taking a lot of working on it. A lot has had to do with my own consistency and and his balance. Though he does like the feel of a gag (I have a three ring elevator) better, which I will be using to show in, but for all schooling I like staying in the D-ring. As over time I'm sure he would start to work against the sliding action and I would have to go back to a snaffle anyways.

    AF
    It all very much depends on the horse, I know that warmbloods typically prime a lot later in their life compared to most horses, unlike TBreds, for example. With his type of personality I was worried for a while that he would just run himself into the ground, with his hot behavior. I had a while that he was off and on lame because he would hurt himself while I was riding because of him throwing his body around, twisting and tripping (Using the first two videos as reference).....I think that's where the fear started. =\ Once I was able to get him to bring himself in more the injuries and lameness stopped.

    I honestly though I was going to have to retire him, because I couldn't do any type of steady workout while keeping him calm enough to not hurt himself. I am starting to have a lot more faith in the idea of a longer riding span for him. He now has been sound for a good three months with heavy riding. (Might be nutrition related as well, I moved stables three months ago. The previous stables before barely feeding anything, moved to new stables that feeds more than enough)
         
        07-22-2011, 12:44 PM
      #15
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Brighteyes    
    I don't usually bother with jumping critiques, but I will comment on this one, since you are doing the exact same thing I do. When you approch a jump: Chest back, sit back. Wait for the jump. Sitting back helps lighten your horse's front end, will slow him down, and he will be better able to pick his spot and negotiate the fence.
    Hahaha this sounds like my trainer. In fact this may be a quote from my lesson today!!! haha that is my exact problem as well and I know as well as anyone what a pain it is to try to break that habit!
         

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