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        08-06-2010, 09:10 PM
      #1
    Weanling
    Riding critique [Flat and jumping]

    I rode Scooter again today. I actually fell off...but aside from that, I got lots of videos for you guys to critique!!

    It's nearly impossible to feel him refusing until you're actually spinning from the jump. I swear, he can stop on a dime [which is why I fell off haha].

    Anyways...The jumps are all 2'6"-3'. I just want to say...Scooter is blind in one eye, and this is my second time riding him after 2 years off him. Also, I think I got left behind a few times cause I focused TOO hard on staying tall and forgot to fold? I dunno...the last jump on one of the combinations is truly horrific. I didn't think he was going to jump so he leapt from a mile away and I was completely unprepared.


    These are the same course, just broken into 2 parts

    After I fell off

    Don't comment on Scooter as he's not my horse, and don't spend much time on the refusals cause I know what went wrong.

    And four pictures from last weeks lesson in case you can tell anything from them





    He has some braking issues so I did have to check him kinda hard occasionally otherwise he'd just put his head down and run.

    OH - and for comparison...here we were December 2008. Any improvement?

    Thank you!
         
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        08-06-2010, 09:31 PM
      #2
    Trained
    Wow, he sure is quick when he changes his mind! It's like riding a squirrel. The only suggestion I have is to give him some balancing half halts throughout to try to keep his legs more under him on approach to the fences.
         
        08-06-2010, 11:53 PM
      #3
    Foal
    Few minor things. Keep your elbows in against your sides. At least in 'fail 2' keep your hands down on the backside of the jumps. It looked like you were pulling back as he landed. Part of that is that you are coming up a bit too early and your hands are following your body.
    For the refusals and such... what works for me with a horse that quick in changing his mind... keep contact through the reins and with your legs at all times. It seemed that he refused when you allowed him to duck out.
    Also, you really probably don't need to check so much. Try picking a pace and, if he starts to pull or speed up and doesn't listen to half-halts, alternate reins with half-halts. It should get his attention. (at least that's what works with an off-the-track-tb I ride)
    Looks pretty nice overall and nice job staying on in those refusals :)
         
        08-07-2010, 09:53 AM
      #4
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
    Wow, he sure is quick when he changes his mind! It's like riding a squirrel. The only suggestion I have is to give him some balancing half halts throughout to try to keep his legs more under him on approach to the fences.
    haha, that's the perfect way to describe him! I definitely need to do more half halts...I got stuck on the whole AHHH he's GOING FAST thing that I forgot about the rest of him a bit, haha.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KittyCat    
    Few minor things. Keep your elbows in against your sides. At least in 'fail 2' keep your hands down on the backside of the jumps. It looked like you were pulling back as he landed. Part of that is that you are coming up a bit too early and your hands are following your body.
    For the refusals and such... what works for me with a horse that quick in changing his mind... keep contact through the reins and with your legs at all times. It seemed that he refused when you allowed him to duck out.
    Also, you really probably don't need to check so much. Try picking a pace and, if he starts to pull or speed up and doesn't listen to half-halts, alternate reins with half-halts. It should get his attention. (at least that's what works with an off-the-track-tb I ride)
    Looks pretty nice overall and nice job staying on in those refusals :)
    Yeah, I noticed that. My jumping position needs a bit of work...I think part of the reason might be that I've only just begun to jump this height consistently [like, the last few weeks] PLUS I've been riding a horse who doesn't put nearly as much effort into the jumps as Scooter, so he goes over them and I'm like WOAH big jump. -_-

    Oh, the legs. That was a big issue that I need to work on - he's incredibly sensitive to leg pressure, and so I was a little afraid that he'd take off if I used any leg [which he's done before]..so I didn't. Hah that's probably part of the reason he was refusing.

    Yeah, a few of the times I checked him a LOT were because we had just picked up the canter, and he pretty much bolted into it, so I was just trying to get his attention at all so that I could pick a pace. I do use alternating half halts on the flat with him, and they work pretty well. I don't know why I didn't use them jumping, hahaha.

    Thank you :) I stayed on for almost all of them - one particularly nasty one got me off at the first jump in the combination haha
         
        08-07-2010, 10:43 AM
      #5
    Foal
    I didn't watch every second of the videos, but it seems to me that your problem is that you're riding your horse's face and not his body, and the reason he keeps running out after that combo is that you "stop riding" after some of your jumps, (IE, stop riding his face) so he takes the initiative to do whatever he wants and runs out. For jumping, (especially that height) it's SEAT and LEG, the bridle is basically there if you run into trouble. Half halts are fine, but you do it with your seat, NOT your hands. If he ignores you after you try once or twice with your seat, then you may reinforce it with your hands.

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    Oh, the legs. That was a big issue that I need to work on - he's incredibly sensitive to leg pressure, and so I was a little afraid that he'd take off if I used any leg [which he's done before]..so I didn't. Hah that's probably part of the reason he was refusing.
    Oh I missed that. Of course that's why he's running out, silly! There's no inside leg for him to run into to say "no, go straight". If he's incredibly sensitive to leg, you don't have to boot him every time you use it. In fact, DON'T use it, just keep it "on". Like it's there and you're technically using it, but don't squeeze, and when you do squeeze, just be gentle and careful about it. If he asks you a question- ("which way are we going?"-zigzag zigzag-) then you'll be ready to give him a clear answer.
         
        08-07-2010, 01:07 PM
      #6
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kerplop    
    I didn't watch every second of the videos, but it seems to me that your problem is that you're riding your horse's face and not his body, and the reason he keeps running out after that combo is that you "stop riding" after some of your jumps, (IE, stop riding his face) so he takes the initiative to do whatever he wants and runs out. For jumping, (especially that height) it's SEAT and LEG, the bridle is basically there if you run into trouble. Half halts are fine, but you do it with your seat, NOT your hands. If he ignores you after you try once or twice with your seat, then you may reinforce it with your hands.



    Oh I missed that. Of course that's why he's running out, silly! There's no inside leg for him to run into to say "no, go straight". If he's incredibly sensitive to leg, you don't have to boot him every time you use it. In fact, DON'T use it, just keep it "on". Like it's there and you're technically using it, but don't squeeze, and when you do squeeze, just be gentle and careful about it. If he asks you a question- ("which way are we going?"-zigzag zigzag-) then you'll be ready to give him a clear answer.
    yeah...with him I did resort to riding front to back. Not sure why, as I don't rely on my reins that much with other horses. I dunno...probably cause he's muuch speedier than the horse I've been riding for the past year, so I was like OH NO and completely forgot about my seat/legs. If I ride him again [which I better...not ending on THAT kind of a note!], I'll definitely work on relying less on the reins and more on my body.
         

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