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post #1 of 34 Old 10-05-2009, 10:46 AM Thread Starter
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I have walk, jog, and a lope here. I had a lope shot that looks better but I think this is more where we are at without are draw reigns. The speed is actually pretty good, faster then a peanut roller but fairly decent. Our head set is the issue. Still working it. He did place in every class, we were between 5th and 7th out of 14 riders through out the day... So anyway critique away.

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post #2 of 34 Old 10-05-2009, 10:55 AM
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I just had an "AHA!" moment.
Well, if the last picture is indeed the lope picture.
Now I know why WP horses look so odd at the lope, the last picture explained it... kinda. With the pure gait, the horse should be in complete suspension before the outside hind comes down. You can see in that picture that the inside front hasn't even left the ground. It's almost a mix between a jog and lope.
I would honestly work on getting that gait pure, otherwise you're setting him up to become a peanut roller *blech*
Are you using draw reins with another set of reins too, or are you still just using the one set?
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Even at the lope, you should be able to just slightly pick up on one rein to encourage him to drop his head (thought I like it where it's at ;)). Of course though, that is depending on how he was trained. He is certainly a gorgeous horse.

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teehee... I saw that "reign" when I hit submit and was too lazy to edit. Can you believe I have been spelling it wrong like that for so long?

Am I on the wrong lead in that pic? I will add a couple more as soon as I get them...and that is an issue I have, he breaks to a trot in the back when he gets really slow and that is bad bad, not only is it miserable to ride but it makes him look broken so we are working on that.... It's really hard :(

I'm in a snaffle w/ draw reins or regular reins and a training fork and a snaffle. I just can't handle all those reins at once. I try... part of why is head is so up at the lope is because I do not put that port bit in his mouth until right before I go in the show ring and then it takes me a while to figure how how to ask him to drop it w/out "snatching". I talked to a guy at the show and he was like, "it just takes practice"... I hate that answer! LOL...

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I think you have a lovely horse! And atleast yours will lope LOL my girl has a great walk/jog but no lope what so ever and when I do canter her she get so hyper and its so frustrating! I think you should work him in his show bit more that way you both are used to it at show time!
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Agree with CR, part of the problem may be that you both are not getting enough schooling in the show bit. I would school in it all the time when you are not using draw reins.

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The reason I commented about draw reins - if you aren't using two reins (regular set and draw) then you are not using the equipment properly.
He is on the correct lead, the problem is that he's not doing the gait properly.
Here is where his legs should be when that outside hind is contacting the dirt:


In your picture, he hasn't even pushed off from his inside front - this is a very big problem, in my opinion. He needs to be encouraged to lope properly instead of mixing up gaits.


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I just had to say that I love him! He is stunning!
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well you have a super cute horse and I am jacking the info off of this thread to learn :) haha

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...So... More forward motion but coming from the hind end? Push him out and use the reins to give him a... wall right? Like push him forward but keep him back... I think I know what you are saying. I'm holding him back first and pushing forward second which is giving him a broken gait... so push him forward while holding him back... ? RIGHT?

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