I took my Ovation saddle to the barn and took pictures.
I also received my lift back pad and put that under my crosby and took pictures.
After that I rode him in the Ovation, the Crosby without the lift pad, and then the Crosby with the lift pad. I will have the videos up soon.
Here are the pictures of the saddle on Montana
Ovation with no saddle pad
I can fit two fingers with it girthed up and no pad
Ovation with a pad
Crosby with no saddle pad or lift pad
Crosby with the lift back pad (note, I left the lift back pad in its packaging so I can return it if need be)
I can fit three fingers with the lift back pad and saddle pad on
I'll give you my opinion after I hear some responses back.