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    03-14-2012, 02:44 PM
  #1
Weanling
Shamrock Just Started Jumping (Critique Him Please.) :)

I have been lunging Shamrock over jumps recently and also jumping him some. This video is me lunging him over a vertical, please critique his form. :)

I'll upload videos of me jumping him soon.

     
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    03-15-2012, 10:25 AM
  #2
Foal
He's lovely!

Looked like he got the right distance and he cleared it well - could be a little tighter in his front end with his knees but that will probably come with time :) he's nice!
     
    03-15-2012, 10:33 AM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by wingana    
he's lovely!

Looked like he got the right distance and he cleared it well - could be a little tighter in his front end with his knees but that will probably come with time :) he's nice!
I was wondering if you'd be able to tell the distance because of the angle, but if I had it any other way, I probably would've blocked the whole jump. And by tighter with his knees, you mean having them closer together, right? I hope that comes with time, when I filmed this it was only the second or third time I'd lunged him over a vertical.

And thanks! :) He's really turned out well to have been only a $500 horse!
     
    03-15-2012, 10:38 AM
  #4
Foal
More of picking them up better..

Like this is my old mare - she pretty much had perfect knees (or so i've been told - I don't jump)



See how her hooves are basically touching the back of her legs and her knees are pulled in as tight as possible?
     
    03-15-2012, 10:58 AM
  #5
Weanling
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Originally Posted by wingana    
more of picking them up better..

Like this is my old mare - she pretty much had perfect knees (or so i've been told - I don't jump)



See how her hooves are basically touching the back of her legs and her knees are pulled in as tight as possible?
I think so, it's kind of hard to see with her coloring and the boots she's wearing, but I can where her legs are a lot tighter against her body. How much they need to pull their legs in doesn't depend on how big of a jump they're going over?
     
    03-15-2012, 11:09 AM
  #6
Foal
Well i'll find another pic of her :) my coach liked to ride her with boots on.. don't know why she's only ever had 2 rails in 3 years lol

This is a pic of her doing 70cm - not much over 2'



Her knees are nice and high but her fetlocks arent tucked away quite as much as they should be.
     
    03-15-2012, 11:56 AM
  #7
Weanling
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Originally Posted by wingana    
well i'll find another pic of her :) my coach liked to ride her with boots on.. don't know why she's only ever had 2 rails in 3 years lol

This is a pic of her doing 70cm - not much over 2'



Her knees are nice and high but her fetlocks arent tucked away quite as much as they should be.
That picture was a lot easier to be able to tell! Haha, she's a cute jumper!
I definitely see what you mean and I'm sure that will come with time as we jump more and start to move the jumps higher, I certainly wouldn't even know how to train him to pick his feet up more. :P
     
    03-15-2012, 01:42 PM
  #8
Yearling
I think for just starting out, his developing form is superb. Very good talent there. He seems to already be getting an 'eye' for the correct spot.

As for teaching him to be tighter in the front (which most horses can get improved in this aspect) you can do gymnastic lines. They REALLY teach the horse to be neat with their legs and careful over the jump.

As for now, I would just practice getting him confident over the jumps. Don't scare him with too much too fast, and make sure you praise as much as possible. Make jumping fun for him! Practice with trot and canter poles so he gets good at being careful with his gaits. "Set up" poles before fences really help green jumpers develop an 'eye' and prevents them from rushing. Generally, the rule is a 'set up' pole should be placed 9' in front of the jump (usually 3 human steps, but you may need to adjust your own stride to make it 3' each step) you can also place another one after the jump, followed by a few trot/canter (depending what gait you're jumping at) poles to set him back into a good rhythm.

My old trainer used to set up poles with standards on the sides in a course so the horse was doing 'course work' with ground poles at first the trot, then the canter. The horse got the whole experience of a jump course, without a difficult height. Slowly, she'd raise the height. Usually, in the first year a horse is jumping, you want to do 18"-2' with a LOT of trotting, poles, and lead changes when you canter.

What all of this does is helps give your horse a solid foundation for jumping, and when you start jumping him seriously, he'll be confident and easy to ride.

Good luck!
     
    03-15-2012, 01:51 PM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by LoveTheSaddlebreds    
I think for just starting out, his developing form is superb. Very good talent there. He seems to already be getting an 'eye' for the correct spot.

As for teaching him to be tighter in the front (which most horses can get improved in this aspect) you can do gymnastic lines. They REALLY teach the horse to be neat with their legs and careful over the jump.

As for now, I would just practice getting him confident over the jumps. Don't scare him with too much too fast, and make sure you praise as much as possible. Make jumping fun for him! Practice with trot and canter poles so he gets good at being careful with his gaits. "Set up" poles before fences really help green jumpers develop an 'eye' and prevents them from rushing. Generally, the rule is a 'set up' pole should be placed 9' in front of the jump (usually 3 human steps, but you may need to adjust your own stride to make it 3' each step) you can also place another one after the jump, followed by a few trot/canter (depending what gait you're jumping at) poles to set him back into a good rhythm.

My old trainer used to set up poles with standards on the sides in a course so the horse was doing 'course work' with ground poles at first the trot, then the canter. The horse got the whole experience of a jump course, without a difficult height. Slowly, she'd raise the height. Usually, in the first year a horse is jumping, you want to do 18"-2' with a LOT of trotting, poles, and lead changes when you canter.

What all of this does is helps give your horse a solid foundation for jumping, and when you start jumping him seriously, he'll be confident and easy to ride.

Good luck!
Thanks! I'll try that. We've been doing a gymnastics line out in the "jump field" at my barn. My trainer set it up as a trot in, canter out though. There's also one solo jump on the other side. I'm free to move the jumps however though as long as I set them back up for the trainer.

In your opinion, what are some good gymnastics line set ups?
     
    03-15-2012, 01:58 PM
  #10
Yearling
Here's a good line example (others on this same channel):
It consists of a trot-in to a bounce, one stride to another bounce, then a long one stride to an oxer.

I did one with my mare, consisting of 5 jumps all one stride, but with one short long stride, one long stride, and three 'average' one strides.

ALSO (and I think I share this WAY too much - BUT IT'S SO GOOD!)

Hope these help :)
     

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