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        01-20-2011, 05:12 PM
      #21
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    Originally Posted by Zeke    
    She doesn't have "some" quarter horses on the dam side, that's what the whole first three into the fourth generation are! So yes, she's got some hano from the sire, but she's just as much quarter horse. Also, the Goldrush stud you posted doesn't have a pedigree that matches her sire's according to allbreed....just a heads up
    I know I had that in my last post :)

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    Originally Posted by Supermane    
    This horse cannot be a registered hanoverian because her dam is a quarter horse. That's a red flag if that's what they are marketing her as. I would skip on this horse.

    They have her as a warmblood I think,but like I said I don't know anything about those bloodlines. I read on the website a horse had to have no less than 50% Hano blood to be registered. She is actually registered ISR and AWS not Hano and I don't know if she could be reg. Half or something.
    But I don't care much for that....papers will mean little to me as long as she is sound and has a good temperment.
    Ill wait and decide for sure when I see the videos
         
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        01-20-2011, 06:58 PM
      #22
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Piaffe    
    They have her as a warmblood I think,but like I said I don't know anything about those bloodlines. I read on the website a horse had to have no less than 50% Hano blood to be registered. She is actually registered ISR and AWS not Hano and I don't know if she could be reg. Half or something.
    But I don't care much for that....papers will mean little to me as long as she is sound and has a good temperment.
    Ill wait and decide for sure when I see the videos
    I was just worried because people that lie about breed tend to lie about temperament and training as well. If they had written hanoverian as her breed I wouldn't touch the horse, especially to buy sight unseen.

    Also, since most warmblood breeds have an open studbook the 50% rule is in place so that the general hanoverian type does not get changed. Only certain breeds are allowed in the registry and they must pass an inspection, these breeds include registered Arabians, Anglo-Arabians, Thoroughbreds, and other warmbloods. Horses can not be registered as half.
         
        01-20-2011, 06:59 PM
      #23
    Weanling
    I actually really like her. She has a very elegant, feminine look to her. Regardless of her mixed bloodlines, she looks Hanoverian - I don't see Quarter Horse in her at all, honestly. She needs some groceries and hill work, but I think she will make a lovely lower level dressage horse.

    Her withers are a little yucky, but that's mainly because of the lack of muscle over her topline. Her neck doesn't bother me; it does have too much muscle on the underside, but it ties in at a nice place. It seems to me like she is probably ridden pulled into a frame, but with proper riding, she is going to look like a totally different horse.

    That said, I wouldn't breed her. There are a lot of horses in the world that need homes; you shouldn't add another unless it is going to be exceptional. This mare is nice, but not exceptional.

    Overall, I think she seems like a nice horse for the price. Definitely post videos when you get them.
         
        01-20-2011, 07:06 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by HopalongCassidy    
    To me, i'm no expert, but to me her front end doesn't really match with her back end.
    I too am no expert but this is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Looks like a bigger horse in front and smaller in back. Not sure if that is just muscles or what. I think she is very pretty though and we all can't be perfect. I know mine isn't and I love her just the same!!!
         
        01-21-2011, 03:29 PM
      #25
    Trained
    If the dam is not inspected by the Hanoverian Verband and is not in the Hanoverian studbook, this mare cannot be a Hanoverian.

    The mare may be registered as a sporthorse, but this does not make her a "warmblood" and especially not a "Hanoverian".

    If you are buying to breed - keep looking. And even for a riding horse, as Supermane has said, if they are lying about the breed, what else are they lying about?? For under $5000, anything being advertised as a Hanoverian is probably not worth your time.

    Good luck!
         
        01-21-2011, 04:03 PM
      #26
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    She is registered as a sporthorse,but she is ALSO registered as a warmblood. Just because she isn;'t a Swedish or Dutch warmblood or something..doesn't mean she is not ;)

    I am not deciding anything until I get videos.
    But...
    And as stated before I am not GETTING her to breed. If I get her it will be for riding,but depending how she turns out I may consider breeding her down the road. To a hanoverian :)

    And as I stated...they had her listed as a warmblood. When I looked at her bloodlines on allbreed it said Hanoverian and I didn't realize what the registries were yet (isr,aws) I assumed hano. It was my mistake and the owner has not lied.

    Even as a registered Hanoverian/Quarter horse I am happy with that. I am not a paper snob ;)

    Thanks again everyone...I was told the videos should be sent tomorrow

    http://www.dutchmillsfarm.com/sales.htm <<<this is where she is
         
        01-22-2011, 08:31 AM
      #27
    Yearling
    OK, what are you going to use her for?

    I've put a comment on here and i'll go by what I already put,

    BUT! I've found a very nice looking thoroughbred in WA, (Witch i'm sure you are an English rider?)

    Ummm, There are other horses that are very nice looking in WA, but I wasn't very sure what breed, or what you wanted it to do. I would consider looking at other horses cause she's not really built like a horse expose to be built, and if they already kinda lied about her breed I wouldn't even consider her, and IF you do think about breeding her in the future you'll have to find a perfect stallion to make up for all her flaws.

    But if you wouldn't mind i'd like to put some of the horses I found on here, if you could just tell me what breed, and what you want it to do and how much you'll pay for it, You can say no but I would love to help you find a more better looking horse that has it hind end and front end match and it neck more like it belongs on the horse. But if you say No, that's ok with me.
         
        01-22-2011, 11:08 AM
      #28
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    Sure why not....a horse that is 1/2 or fully registered with breeds such as a Dutch wb,hanoverian or trakkhener that is well broke,has had foals before,is over 15 hands,has a great personality,has dressage training and sells guaranteed sound. And is under $1000. Color isnt important. UTD on everything. I think she is the only one,but if you could find another I would be interested....you could look in surrounding states too because I don't mind shipping horses ;) Thx
         
        01-22-2011, 11:28 AM
      #29
    Green Broke
    Maybe horses are just expensive where I come from, and I know the market has come down, but gosh, what do you guys expect for $1000? If she's sound and a good horse of any breed or mixed breeds, she should be worth $1000, don't you think!?

    I paid $2000 for my Mustang. It was 6 years ago, and he was 12 yrs old, but he is the best horse I have ever owned, and is worth every penny! He was trained out the wahzoo and is the most respectful, well trained horse I have ever owned. I would pay $2000 all day for such a good horse, and he's a BLM horse with no claim to any fancy breeds.

    Call me crazy, but $1000 doesn't sound high for such a lovely mare. I don't find her conformation unattractive at all, and she has the most lovely head.

    I know you don't ride the head, but I do think the sweet, inquisitive expression says good things about the horse. (I once had a mare that was a real *@#%! And I don't think I had a single photo of her with her ears forward).

    And besides, finding the right horse is more important than $500 or $1000 either direction, because hopefully you will be keeping and enjoying that horse for a long time. Right?

    I would jump on her if I were looking for a good riding horse (assuming she is a good riding horse of course!).
         
        01-22-2011, 04:04 PM
      #30
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    Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
    Maybe horses are just expensive where I come from, and I know the market has come down, but gosh, what do you guys expect for $1000? If she's sound and a good horse of any breed or mixed breeds, she should be worth $1000, don't you think!?

    I paid $2000 for my Mustang. It was 6 years ago, and he was 12 yrs old, but he is the best horse I have ever owned, and is worth every penny! He was trained out the wahzoo and is the most respectful, well trained horse I have ever owned. I would pay $2000 all day for such a good horse, and he's a BLM horse with no claim to any fancy breeds.

    Call me crazy, but $1000 doesn't sound high for such a lovely mare. I don't find her conformation unattractive at all, and she has the most lovely head.

    I know you don't ride the head, but I do think the sweet, inquisitive expression says good things about the horse. (I once had a mare that was a real *@#%! And I don't think I had a single photo of her with her ears forward).

    And besides, finding the right horse is more important than $500 or $1000 either direction, because hopefully you will be keeping and enjoying that horse for a long time. Right?

    I would jump on her if I were looking for a good riding horse (assuming she is a good riding horse of course!).


    Exactly thank you. I am not looking for a bred to the nines perfectly conformed horse. I am so far happy with what I have heard about her. Videos should be here sometime today :)
         

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