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post #21 of 39 Old 02-14-2011, 08:24 AM
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If you live breed a stallion, it changes their behavior - for good, whether they are gelded or not. Sure, there is the one in a million that doesn't change, but that's one in a million, and probably not a more active breed like a Thoroughbred.

That would be the biggest issue, really. A 'stallion that does not know he is a stallion' behaves very, very differently from one that has been used for live breeding.

You have to think about whether that is really worth it. You will, by all odds, have 'a stallion that knows he is a stallion' all of a sudden, and that carries certain disadvantages - it affects how the horse behaves both at a show and at home, how he can be stabled, turned out, etc.

Unless you are very used to dealing very effectively with the absolute worst possible behavior, I'd say no.

Why 'used to dealing effectively with the absolute worst possible behavior'? Because there is no guarantee that it won't happen, or even, that what a stud manager would call 'a little studdy' is to you something horrific that gets you or anyone else hurt.

I'd geld him now and breed her to a stallion that is selected because he is a good match for her bloodlines and conformation, not one that just happened to show up at my barn.
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post #22 of 39 Old 02-14-2011, 09:28 AM
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There isn't much of a market for TB stallions unless they excel at a certain discipline. Most people who want a TB sporthorse will use a mare as the TB half, then breed her to the other half. If he excels at a certain discipline, then it's more reason to keep him a stud, but if he doesn't, then geldig him might be best for him. Other than that.. his hind end looks fairly weak in that photo, and he looks fairly sickle hocked. I personally would likely geld him. Unless he's something special, there's no reason to breed your mare to him rather than something that excels at their job.
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The common "un-offical" rule of thumb is if the mare hasn't won anything big and the stallion hasn't won anything big, don't breed them. If its a baby you want then i would suggest going and buying one, thats one less foal off the market and you know what your getting. No to mention alot cheaper then breeding. Unless you have a specific goal for the foal (thats not just to turn around and sell it) then i would strongly suggest gelding him. He is lovely and IMO he would be even more lovely as a gelding.
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I vote geld too. He is nice enough but his conformation isn't amazing, in fact he looks a little toed in looking at the second picture and he is much more downhill than you would like in a performance stallion. He looks like any other TB and there are a million of them out there like him.

Since he currently has a good temperament he will make a lovely gelding and will be easier to take out to competitions as a gelding, much less hassle for you. Additionally, if you keep him as a stud, you really need to have the right set up to house him separately from other horses which isn't always feasible for some (not saying this is you).

There are so many TB's around that there is no demand for TB sires unless they are well and truly race proven and even though your guy sneaked a few races here and there, it isn't enough to market him as a sire of racehorses.

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you have the lines of a great gelding there IMO definitely not stallion potential he is handsome but so are thousands others he needs the wow factor

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I'm another one on the geld side. He's a very pretty boy, but not stallion quality.
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post #26 of 39 Old 02-14-2011, 11:27 AM
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Geld him.

He'll make a spectacular gelding. As a stally, he leaves a lot to be desired.

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post #27 of 39 Old 02-14-2011, 01:21 PM
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When I started to breed horses years ago I was told "Just because you have a mare does not mean she shoud be bred." I was also told, "Just because a stallion is close by and available is not a reason to use him ON your mare."

This horse, as a stud, needs to show conformation pluses that your mare lacks.. and your mare should show pluses this colt is not up to par on.

What about this particular horse and your particular mare makes it seem worthwhile that either horse's genes should be carried by another generation?

Most mares should not be bred and most stallions should be gelded.. this one included. He is a very nice horse BTW.

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I think those of you who have said you should not breed a horse just because you can are right on the money. I think that a breeding of convinience would be exactly what it would be. I never had any desire to breed my mare until I got him. I still think he is beautiful, but I have no desire to keep a stallion long enough to compete with him. It is worriesome. I just got him because I thought he was beautiful and the price was right.
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post #29 of 39 Old 02-14-2011, 02:28 PM
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All the best with him, he sounds like a sweetheart! Wish more owners were able to view their horses from such an honest and objective standpoint.

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post #30 of 39 Old 02-16-2011, 06:11 PM
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To me he looks sort of bony. I'm not sure if that is a proper word to describe it, but that's just my opinion. I'm used to stockier horses so this is just more of a personal preference of mine to see more muscular horses. But if you are breeding him to a nice QH I'd say go for it! By your description he sounds like he has a great disposition, and it might be a bad judgement on my part because he's walking. With a shoulder and hip dropped it looks uneven.
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