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        05-05-2008, 11:05 PM
      #1
    Trained
    some more flatwork...how am i going - pic heavy

    I havent had much time lately for riding between going away and my little doggie being so sick but yesterday I decided to hop on possum for a little workout. I think we are doing better :) im working on keeping my heels down but my toes are still out a little far. That's on and off though. Some moments they are right and other moments they arent ;) so heres a few pics. Tell me what you all think. And yes I know im not wearing a helmet. Please no comments on this. Its my noggin










    And a cheeky one :)
         
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        05-06-2008, 01:10 AM
      #2
    Weanling
    Love the name for you horse

    1: You want the weight to sink into your heels, you don't want it to be shoved down. You have a very nice bent heel, but it almost looks like you are bracing against your stirrup and your leg has slipped forward a little because of it.

    2: Has your saddle slipped? Be wary of getting on from the ground if you are, it can pull your horses back and put unnecessary strain on it. If you don't have a mounting block use a bucket, that's what I use. Relax. It looks like you are starting to sit a little on your crotch and you are hollowing your back. Relax, and sit tall. Toes in.

    3: Love the sunglasses 8) . Elbows to your sit and hands down. Just because you are going over a pole doesn't mean you need to lift your hands. Close your fingers and maintain your position. Your horse looks so flashy by the way with the two matching socks on the back and the lovely color.

    4: You look balanced, but your saddle seems a little off (centered wise). You have even shoulders and hands. Keep your thumbs up. Your one heel is starting to come up and your toes go out. No stirrup work will help to strengthen your leg position so you can keep it in place better

    5: Same thing as 4, except you are doing something different with your hands. Try to keep them even.

    6: Move your hands in a little closer together and close your fingers.

    7: Your heel is down, but your have shoved your leg forward. You want to try to maintain a straight line from your heel to your hip. You have a nice seat though and you sit very well. Still try to keep your hands even. Even though in a couple pictures I have said this, you have kept your hands really soft which is great, you don't hang on your horses mouth.

    8: Your leg looks a little better in this one, but I would still like to see it back a little more. Sit up tall and keep your hands even.

    9: Same thing that I have been saying. Except here you need to lower your hand a little and keep them even. You have dropped your outside one and raised your inside one, so really try to maintain keeping them even.

    10: ! Cheeky lady :o
         
        05-06-2008, 01:25 AM
      #3
    Showing
    Move your legs back a bit, & remember to keep your hands closer & down. ;) If you need more help keeping them down, here's a technique I use sometimes...I grab a bit of the mane with my pinky. It usually helps for your hands to stay low.
    Pepper has pretty much said it all, but otherwise you look great! I also love those sunglasses! 8D
         
        05-06-2008, 02:39 AM
      #4
    Foal
    HELMET?????!!!!!!!!
         
        05-06-2008, 02:56 AM
      #5
    Trained
    Thanks everyone. Pretty much what I know ;)

    Cubbinbaby - as I said in my original post, please don't comment on the lack of a helmet. Its my head and if I decide not to wear one then so be it. I wear one when the occasion requires it otherwise I have made a decision as an adult, not to wear one. Its gets kinda annoying when you ask for riding critique and all someone can reply with is one word about a subject I specifically asked be avoided.
         
        05-06-2008, 11:19 AM
      #6
    Foal
    You look unstable in your lower leg. This is affecting your upper body, hands and seat.

    Even though you are riding dressage, I would try a shorter stirrup length. This will help you keep your heel down and make your leg a litle more stable.

    Lots of work in two point will help you get your leg in the correct place and keep it there. In some of the pictures your leg has come out in front of you and your seat has gone back. Concentrating too much on heels down can actually make this problem worse as it will jam your heel down and in front of you sending your seat back. Two point will help you softly sink your weight into your heels.

    Your hands are very wide, and I am suspecting that this is in an effort to keep your horses head down. This will only make him more on the forehand. Ride with your legs. He needs lots more energy.

    Keep your outside rein firm and supportive and your inside rein forgiving and inviting. Inside rein encorages flexion and the outside rein controls it. Wide hands only confuse the horse.

    Remeber to always ask first with leg. Reins only will make the horse sour and stiff. It like trying to steer your car without hitting the gas. Yeah you'll turn the wheels, but you won't actually go anywhere.

    Your horse is cute and you fit him very well! I think you two make an awesome team!!!
         
        05-07-2008, 08:01 AM
      #7
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Just Jump It
    You look unstable in your lower leg. This is affecting your upper body, hands and seat.

    Even though you are riding dressage, I would try a shorter stirrup length. This will help you keep your heel down and make your leg a litle more stable.

    Lots of work in two point will help you get your leg in the correct place and keep it there. In some of the pictures your leg has come out in front of you and your seat has gone back. Concentrating too much on heels down can actually make this problem worse as it will jam your heel down and in front of you sending your seat back. Two point will help you softly sink your weight into your heels.

    Your hands are very wide, and I am suspecting that this is in an effort to keep your horses head down. This will only make him more on the forehand. Ride with your legs. He needs lots more energy.

    Keep your outside rein firm and supportive and your inside rein forgiving and inviting. Inside rein encorages flexion and the outside rein controls it. Wide hands only confuse the horse.

    Remeber to always ask first with leg. Reins only will make the horse sour and stiff. It like trying to steer your car without hitting the gas. Yeah you'll turn the wheels, but you won't actually go anywhere.

    Your horse is cute and you fit him very well! I think you two make an awesome team!!!
    I agree what JJI said.
    Although I do like to use the lowered arms in some aspects of training. ESP with young horses, also with horses who have a high head carrige. Although Possum has a very nice steady head carrige, so Emily I would perhaps close your hands about a good inch off her wither, and a bit (horse bit) apart. See how that goes. Wide hands in my eyes are a training guide, highering your hands may also help with your chicken wings (hehe)

    But darn you too are just growing!! Well done :)

    Hows Jarred going?
         
        05-07-2008, 07:19 PM
      #8
    Trained
    Thanks for the replies guys :) in response to pepperduck:

    I struggle a lot with my heels. They are either to far down or not down enough :roll: I think it comes from spending the first 14 years of riding knowing not a lot more than stop, go, left, right and hold on lol its not really relevant in this situation to worry about posture of where your toes are :) but ten years later I still struggle with it lol I enjoy dressage very much but I feel uncomfortable most of the time when im in the right position :) ill get there though ;)

    I do use a mounting block but I noticed in another standing still front on pic the I looked off centre. Don't know how it happened though. If I can I try and get someone to hold the stirrup on the other side so there is as little pulling as possible.

    Yes I am very soft on her mouth and I know I hold my hands too high sometimes. She gets really irritated with any pressure on her mouth and I've started to get worse with my hand position. I would always have more contact in the past and do so with jarred and cougar but she's a different kettle of fish. Its hard to explain but mentally im trying to keep myself very light in many ways. She is also very sensitive to seat and leg and takes the tiniest of movements or anything as a cue and reacts. Maybe this is also another reason why I struggle more on her...holding feet out more so as not to touch her or something. I dunno just thinking cause I don't recall having this many problems before lol maybe I did. Who knows? Lol

    I guess I need to find that happy medium for both of us. She is getting her teeth done next week too. That may be a problem cause the guy I got her from says while she is very soft in the mouth she isnt usually quite so soft so maybe her teeth are due but she isnt showing any other signs of needing her teeth done but we will find out ;)

    She is a flashy girl isnt she ;)

    My hand level - even though possum is well trained we are having a few issues with things as its been a few years since she's done it all. She is having problems flexing through corners and has been dropping her shoulder a lot. To get her through the corner I bring my left hand over a little so there is a little pressure on her neck while moving the outside rein out a little. Plus a bit of inside leg. This helps steady her through the corners. Once she has that down pat I can ride the corners easier and normally :) she also does it sometimes along the fence and if I don't move her off she will rip my leg off on one of the posts :roll: seeing as she seems a little unbalanced at the moment, this is helping her get her confidence and balance. I don't do it all the time just when she needs to move or flex :)

    Ok so tonight im going to ride her again and I will get some more pics and videos too. Im going to focus on my feet and my position and my hands. I think I have to try and get just that little bit more connection with her mouth.

    Delregan - jarred is ok-ish. Im going to make a thread about him in the health section because im not happy so far with any of the vet/chiros diagnoses. Ill do that either now or later this evening. But in general he is good
         
        05-07-2008, 07:41 PM
      #9
    Trained
    I rode a horse a couple times that was extremely sensitive to any seat and leg movements that I would hold my legs away from her. I'm not sure how my feet/legs looked from the ground, but I doubt they were very pretty.

    But from before pictures I have seen til now, you seem to be improving a lot. You're feet aren't as turned out as they were before.

    Possum is just so pretty, I love seeing recent pics of her! She's made a total 180
         
        05-08-2008, 01:16 PM
      #10
    Yearling
    JJ and pepper have given you great advise, I see a couple of things I canf ix at home as well. The only thing I'd like to add is stop looking at his head, it''s still there! Look up!
         

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