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    07-03-2012, 10:09 PM
  #1
Weanling
Trouble with grabbing mane over jump

I have a habit of doing this, and I'm pulling out my boy's mane because my fingers get tangled in it. I noticed that most people don't grab onto the mane. What do you do for balance? How can I break this habit? Also, I SOMETIMES pull on his mouth as we jump. Should I have my hands further up his neck while we jump, or should I bring them closer to the front of his neck, as if I would wrap my arms around him?

Here is a video so that you can get a better idea. Please do not critique me on anything other than how I can stop relying on his mane for balance and not jerking his mouth. I have a very good instructor and recently started back over the jumps after a few years off. Also, it was taken two or three weeks ago, and I have improved since then. I was lazy and uploaded it on Sunday....:embarrassed:

ALSO....the youtube editor didn't have any better music....but my mom was talking through the whole thing and it got annoying. I also know that he was on the wrong lead at one point....we're working on it, ha....ha...ha....

Anyways, here it is:
     
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    07-03-2012, 11:40 PM
  #2
Super Moderator
Well, I don't think I can necessarily stay within the boundaries of what you requested for a critique. You grabbing the mane is based on not being really secure, and that is based on not having your leg under you, primarily.

Is that a jumping saddle you are in? It looks like the stirrup is a bit long, and your leg is out in front of you. I do not see your weight down through your lower leg. It looks like you are riding more off of your knee, which means that your lower leg is not acting as the very strong support that itneeds to be for you to feel secure about the jump.
When your leg is out in front of you, it means that you are always a bit behind the motion. I think this is maybe why you end up bopping hm in the mouth a bit, and it looks like you aren't always certain when to move up on him, I mean you tend to jump "for" him, rather than having him lift you up and over.

Have you ever done any jumping on a lunge line, without any reins at all? Can you ride your beautiful horse over a series of ground poles in two point? On a loose rein?

Once you have that leg more under you and more connected with weight goind down through it, I think you will feel a world of difference. Your horse is a total doll and you are well suited to him.
     
    07-04-2012, 12:42 AM
  #3
Weanling
Thank you. Everyone at the farm calls him The King. Should I shorten my stirrups by a hole? And the saddle is a Stubben Cavalleria II (all-purpose). And yes, I feel like I have to set him up for the jump or else he might refuse or I'll fall off. What do I need to work on to fix that problem?
     
    07-04-2012, 12:47 AM
  #4
Weanling
I also noticed that when I ride him stirrupless or bareback, my lower legs are further up and I have more support. With the stirrups, I feel suspended instead of like I'm being carried.
     
    07-04-2012, 01:07 AM
  #5
Weanling
I love my horse, ha ha! He has icy blue eyes and his coat glitters (when he's clean). I gave him a bath last night and he watched me hose him off. It was like he was trying to figure out how the hose worked! XD He's cute!
     
    07-04-2012, 06:12 PM
  #6
Weanling
Well... their is nothing really wrong with grabbing onto the mane when jumping... But anyway, you should really set up a grid of bounces, and once your positive your horse is confident with it, I would go over the grid with hands OFF the reins, like superman. That should tremendously improve your balance so your not relying on the reins, or his mane. Also, if you learn to do a auto release, that might help with not relying on the mane.
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    07-04-2012, 08:18 PM
  #7
Foal
I agree with tiny, you are riding with a chair seat and it has caused you to be off balance. Definitely shorten your stirrups for jumping and work in 2pt a lot on the flat as well as over trot poles and small gymnastics to get your lower leg stronger and able to support your body. That way you wont feel the need to throw your body at his neck and you will become less dependent on the mane. Jumping for your horse wont encourage him to jump but instead put you in a position to fall if he were to stop or trip. You seem like a very capable rider but I do not think you are at the point where you should be learning an automatic release, it is an advanced release and something to work on once you are in better balance and not reliant on the mane.
You guys seem like a really good team and your horse is handsome! Good luck to both of you!
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    07-04-2012, 11:46 PM
  #8
Weanling
Thanks guys. We worked on a single three foot jump today. He was having trouble with it before. He would pause and then jump over, and then stop right after the jump. I shortened my stirrups by a hole and then did the same jump today, and he hopped over it like crossrails! I grabbed his mane a little, out of habit, but I relied more on my seat and lower legs. He refused a few times today (he always does at least once), and I didn't feel like I was about to be thrown off. I will try to post a video soon. He now canters through and out of the jump, and I feel like I am MUCH more secure in my seat, at least compared to before. It took some trial and error (meaning: I ALMOST flew over his neck because I didn't go into two-point), so I decided to lower the jump to a crossrails (1ft. In the center) and focus on what I was doing wrong. After twenty or so minutes, I raised it to three feet again and tried to translate what I learned into the new, higher jump, and there was a WORLD of improvement.
     
    07-04-2012, 11:49 PM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Poneigh    
I agree with tiny, you are riding with a chair seat and it has caused you to be off balance. Definitely shorten your stirrups for jumping and work in 2pt a lot on the flat as well as over trot poles and small gymnastics to get your lower leg stronger and able to support your body. That way you wont feel the need to throw your body at his neck and you will become less dependent on the mane. Jumping for your horse wont encourage him to jump but instead put you in a position to fall if he were to stop or trip. you seem like a very capable rider but I do not think you are at the point where you should be learning an automatic release, it is an advanced release and something to work on once you are in better balance and not reliant on the mane.
you guys seem like a really good team and your horse is handsome! Good luck to both of you!
Bold 1: Thank you. My goal is Grand Prix or Olympics. I'm starting small, however, ha ha!

Italics: I have no idea what an automatic release is. Please explain?

Bold 2: Yeah, we have our good days and bad ones. Today was a very good one; we made TONS of improvement. And yes, he sure is a handsome devil. Thank you so much!
     
    07-05-2012, 07:33 AM
  #10
Weanling
Do you have a coach who's helping you ?
     

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