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        07-04-2013, 04:47 PM
      #1
    Yearling
    Try two!

    Decided to start a new thread since I'm not scared to post because you guys are awesome and helpful!

    This is next video where I triedddd to take in some advice I got on my last thread, Scared to post this :(

    So got some quick video today...not much improvement :( I haven't been able to get on much because of the weather! I kept reminding myself to bend my elbows and lean back some and when I look down my arms look bent and great! Buttttt when I look in the video....they are not. I think they improved a little though. Just need to get more practice!

    Dexter and I were both somewhat miserable with the heat and humidity and you can tell. When we are on the trails, and in the shade he's a totally different horse, so much happier! In the ring....with the sun shining right on us...he doesn't want to move lol..

    I did put his easyboots on for this ride, so see what you think about his front end? I was going to put his back ones on too but realized the gator got ripped on our trail ride last weekend :( He doesn't really feel off to me when I'm on him, I think partially his head bobbing is from him being so distracted then me trying to make him pay attention? People kept walking across the field today and made him completely ADD.

    Side thought...I'm thinking about shaving him...hes grey underneath from his roan...good idea? Bad idea? I've never shaved him before, but I've shaved other horses and I'm a dog groomer so I know how to. Think that would help him be more comfortable? Any cons to doing it?

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    I think my elbows are bent a little more, but I just need to loosen my reins some more and I guess try and overbend them almost to get a good feel and get used to it? I tried to ask him to move out more from my leg too not just my heels (comment in previous thread) but he just didn't want to move today...he gets sweaty while I'm just grooming him though so I don't completely blame him lol
         
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        07-04-2013, 06:11 PM
      #2
    Trained
    Better on the hands, but they are still not quite lined up right and too busy. You elbows are not relaxed. When you first get on and are walking around on a loose rein, take that time to work on your shoulders. Do some shoulder shrugs, large arm circles, stuff like that to let your upper arms start to relax and let your upper arms hang softly at your sides. Then find the correct length and alignment with your lower arm to the horse's mouth. Like you already noticed, you still need to bend your elbows more.

    Now on to the busy hands. I can't tell if you're using your reins for balance or just still trying to find the connection. Either way they are sending too much noise to your horse's mouth. I have a few suggestions on how to fix it.

    (most advanced fix). At the halt, once you find that proper alignment, picture a small box around your hands, just big enough to still follow your horse's head motion at the walk and canter. Otherwise your hands cannot leave that area. This forces your forearms to stay still and puts the work on your elbows to do their job of opening and closing.

    Easier. Same idea as above except, once you find the box, tie a ribbon or something to your horse's mane at that spot long enough where you can hang onto the other end with a pinky finger. This will more quickly tell you how much or little your hands are moving since you will feel the tug from the ribbon every time you're leaving the box.

    Easiest. Use a stirrup leather around your horse's neck with plenty of extra space for you to hang onto with both hands along with your reins. This will keep your hands quiet with the least amount of effort on your part and help re-educate your hands to become quieter.

    As for the rest of the video, my horse was half dead too today, so it's hard to tell if she's off or just very behind the leg. She does need to be more forward at the trot. The tempo she's doing in that video makes it very hard to post. Try it again when it's not a zillion degrees out.
         
        07-04-2013, 06:31 PM
      #3
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by MyBoyPuck    
    Now on to the busy hands. I can't tell if you're using your reins for balance or just still trying to find the connection. Either way they are sending too much noise to your horse's mouth. I have a few suggestions on how to fix it.
    I try to really focus on not using my reins for balance but I know I've caught myself doing it a few times before though. I think a big part of it is trying to find our connection and to keep him focused. My trainer before she moved, whenever he would slightly start losing focus she'd have me do a little sponging with the inside rein, I do it pretty lightly, but it looks ugly huh lol. I like your suggestions for trying to help with that though! I will probably try putting something around his neck at first then try the more advanced ways. I do have a little bucking strap I could throw on my saddle? Would that be good? Right now its on a kids saddle that the new trainer that comes to the barn uses with the little girls and ponies but I can take it back to use some.

    To really help make sure I'm not using my reins for balance, would attempting to teach my bf how to lunge Dexter while I'm riding benefit me you think? So I can drop the reins and focus on me? Or if I'm able to get a lesson from the new trainer coming out I could ask her to maybe...I LOVEEEEE doing lunge line lessons but haven't gotten to do one in SOOOOOO long. Dexter was SO cute last time we did one, my trainer had me like wind mill my arms and be all crazy on top of him to desensitize him to movements some haha. It def helped me a ton too.
         
        07-04-2013, 06:35 PM
      #4
    Trained
    Bucking strap would work. It would be a little low and break the straight line, but would probably work if you just hook your pinkies around it.

    To see if you're using your reins for balance, sure having your bf longe you would work. You can also do the single person's longe lesson by just trotting around and post with your reins at the buckle. No contact = nothing to hang onto.

    Love your horse by the way. I can just see her looking for that contact. Once you two get that established, she's going to be a very nice mover for you.
         
        07-04-2013, 06:40 PM
      #5
    Yearling
    Ohhh that's a cool idea with the single person longe lesson, when we're on the trail I ride with my reins at the buckle and he's an angel, I'll try it in the ring some. THANKS!

    He is quite a cutie :) He was trying to be a brat at first today about me getting on, everytime I went to bend his head in he'd try to walk away haha. He's had issues with mounting before so I wont get on now unless I got his head flexed in, so it took us like 25 min to do some ground work and make him listen so I could get on...brat...
         
        07-04-2013, 07:29 PM
      #6
    Super Moderator
    I love MBP's ideas! I learn a lot from her.
    I like the idea of sometimes posting around virtually on the buckle. The horse likes it, and you get to focus only on your posting, and no thought to doing anything with your hands.

    As for sponging to get the horse to refocus and keep his inward flexion, you can do this with the minutest of movements in the hand, that dont' have a busy look. First of all, you have to have your hands closed. This is something I struggle with, too; keeping my hands closed ALL the time. I keep telling myself that whenever I let my hands fall open, I just let the birdy fly away. (you know how some riding instructors say to hold your reins as if you were holding two little birds in your palm; tight enough to keep them there, but not so tight as to crush them). So, I keep reminding myself not to let the birdy fly away out of my hands.
    When your hand is closed over the rein, the signals you give and what you feel becomes smaller and more sensitive.
         
        07-04-2013, 07:42 PM
      #7
    Yearling
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    As for sponging to get the horse to refocus and keep his inward flexion, you can do this with the minutest of movements in the hand, that dont' have a busy look. First of all, you have to have your hands closed. This is something I struggle with, too; keeping my hands closed ALL the time. I keep telling myself that whenever I let my hands fall open, I just let the birdy fly away. (you know how some riding instructors say to hold your reins as if you were holding two little birds in your palm; tight enough to keep them there, but not so tight as to crush them). So, I keep reminding myself not to let the birdy fly away out of my hands.
    When your hand is closed over the rein, the signals you give and what you feel becomes smaller and more sensitive.
    Ohh I like that, I'll try to think of that too maybe it will help :) Thanks!
         
        07-04-2013, 08:23 PM
      #8
    Showing
    You're improving each ride! Keep in mind that habits are hard to change so you will keep having to remind yourself to loosen up and let your elbows act like little doors
         
        07-08-2013, 09:37 PM
      #9
    Yearling
    Ok, today I really worked hard on my hands/arms, no video though sorry. One thing I really noticed and bothered me though is that when I give more reins so I can bring my arms in Dexter kinda just blows off my cues...Its really weird, I just don't feel like I have as much control of him, I'm guessing that's how I ended up riding him like I have been. Any suggestions? Like When I asked him to do circle work, I do cue with leg to get him bending around my legs and what not, and usually just give a little cue with the inside rein to help ask him to bend...well I felt like I was having to open my arm up a foot to actually get him to bend in :( Maybe we were just having a bad day I dunno! I did practice my posting trot on a very loose rein to practice my balance though and that went great for the most part :) I was riding in shorts, which was a terrible idea...I kept sticking to my saddle haha.

    After I rode and got his saddle off I noticed something baddddddd though :( Last few rides his sweat marks haven't been even...I just use a back on track and thin line pad under my saddle, so that should help him feel great! I called and left a message with a highly recommended saddle fitter though, last thing I want is him to be getting a sore back!
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