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    05-18-2010, 09:43 PM
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Update/ Critique weight?

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Early March.......



Today (Mid May)






Forgive the bad angle in the first one; I'm standing on a hill, and he's standing with his front feet in a hole. However, can you see a difference? In person I can. He definitely has more of a belly, and is wider. This is just with one extra flake a day. I started the Max E Glo today, and I'm also switching him over to senior feed, and cutting it back to 3/4 scoop, which may help with his ulcer/cribbing problem.
     
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    05-19-2010, 06:49 PM
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Weanling
No - when was the last time an equine dentist looked in his mouth? That can cause him to not digest the food as well cause it's not chewed up enough.

Worms are another reason for weight loss - but I suggest getting more weight on him before any heavy worming cause he's pretty skinny.

Dr Toots Banner is an Equine dentist (and vet) at the University of Gainesville - so not awfully far from you.
     
    05-19-2010, 08:10 PM
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I don't think he looks much different weight-wise. I agree with Valentina- have you had a dentist out to look at him? He doesn't look wormy to me, but I could be mistaken. I would give him free-choice forage if I was you. Rice bran and beet pulp are great for weight gain as well.

His coat looks a lot nicer in the last two pics. =)

Edit: I just read your other thread and I've never heard of alfalfa making horses hot. My two get it all the time and they're not high strung (even my idiot Thoroughbred). Alfalfa is a major source of calcium and they need a certain amount of it. I think you should try it with your guy. Moderation is the key with everything. One thing I learned from my vet is that horses are a lot smarter than people because they know what they need. Their bodies naturally crave what they need, so if a horse needs more phosphorus, he'll eat grass hay. If he's lacking calcium, he'll go for the alfalfa. My vet's modo is "I'd rather feed it and not need it than need it and not feed it." I found out through experience that it's very true.
     
    05-19-2010, 08:23 PM
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I realize I spelled motto wrong. Brain fart.
     
    05-19-2010, 08:24 PM
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Dentist- Came in Feburary. He even said he could have gone another 3 months, it took them five minutes to file down a couple of teeth. He did say his jaw was out of alignment, but again, that was in Feburary so it was fixed awhile ago.

Worms-Wormed him last month, I had the vet do an FEC so we wormed him with Equimax.

He's on rice bran right now, but I literally JUST started him yesterday.He's never lost any weight while I've had him, just gained it....probably 200 pounds when I first got him and put him on hay? That was last year

No option for free choice. The BO does not have the money to buy round bales (that paddock he's in isn't really big enough for one anyway) and I don't have the money either. We have one grass pasture that's taken up by our "special" horses (we have two who are on limited turn out, and they go up there) but I can see if he can be put up there for a few hours in the day.

HE specifically goes nuts on alfalfa. He's on T&A, but late last year we had to mix our own and he went from a quiet calm horse to jig and weave and paw at every available opportunity. This was when he was still getting worked, and he was just on 2 flakes a day. Its not the actual alfalfa, I'll give you that, its the jump in calories.

Just for reference, I taped him before I started the extra hay three weeks ago, and he taped at 968, so at any given time he could be 1000 pounds.
     
    05-20-2010, 03:54 AM
  #6
Weanling
I don't see a huge difference except that is coat is nicer. Just by looking at him I would say he would benefit at a weight of 1150 or so. His spine is pretty far out there in every picture and his ribs are still showing. Good luck getting his weight up I know it can be hard because the horse I used to ride was an older Thoroughbred who loves to drop massive weight and not gain it back very quickly.

Maybe try some Cool Calories, Corn Oil [I think that is the oil it is] or Beet Pulp. Also even though he probably isn't older senior feed works well and I have heard good things about FatCat. 1000 pounds or less is just way too skinny for this guy.
     
    05-20-2010, 09:47 AM
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Thanks, we also just switched him over to senior. Here's what his diet looks like....

AM:
3 flakes T&A
3/4 scoop Manna senior (about 2-3 pounds)
1/2 lb of Max E Glo

PM:
2 flakes T&A
3/4 scoop Manna senior (about 2-3 pounds)
1/2 lb of Max E Glo

He eats it all fine, he's not a picky eater thankfully. He does also get a bran mash on Sundays.

Also, his spine could be because he has NO top line. If he put on muscle it would fill in that whole area on top of his back and right behind his shoulder.
     
    05-20-2010, 09:54 AM
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Green Broke
I don't see a great deal of difference between the two pictures apart from coat as other posters mentioned, I guess this is because the first picture was taken at the end of winter and the second picture was taken at the beginning of summer?

He doesn't look wormy in the slightest to me, actually he looks pretty healthy. Just looks like he needs some conditioning! What is the protein content of your feed? If it is around 12% or above he should build some nice muscle along the topline and he will look trim and terrific. How much weight were you looking to put on him?
     
    05-20-2010, 09:59 AM
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I'm really just looking to fill his ribs in....There was some picture that I can't seem to find where he was getting pockets right in front of his hip bones, but those have filled in (you can see it in the 3rd pic) Probably a light 200 pounds, maybe less because he wouldn't be a very good rolly polly TB, his frame is too small.

The Senior feed has 12.5% protein and the Max E Glo has 13%. If I had a saddle he would totally be getting trot work done, but I'll see if I can borrow some schooling tack.
     
    05-20-2010, 10:48 AM
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Green Broke
Correct me if I'm wrong, but were you the one in another thread who is boarding at the same facility as another member, also having weight issues with her horse, who had said that the hay is only when they are in the stall and they are in the paddocks (without access to hay) for "most of the day and night"? If so, that is going to be the key factor in his coming along. If that is you I am thinking of, I know that you had both said offering free choice hay is not really an option at that facility, but that is really what he needs in order to come to and hold a good condition. Is there anyway the two of you could have your horses in the same paddock (maybe with another boarder or two) so the group of you could split the cost of providing hay in the paddock during their turnout time?
     

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