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post #1 of 7 Old 05-16-2012, 09:22 AM Thread Starter
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This weekends critique

So here are some video's of the past weekend, I didn't want a critique but I have changed my mind. What I see is I am jumping ahead, it seems I manage to stay somewhat steady, the first video was the first class of the day and I was having some communication issues with my horse lol ( and the 6 stride was wrong- i know ) And after I hit the rail I stopped riding.. thats the reason for the bad position and sloppy riding ( I should have kept going proper- Lesson learnt already ) But in my mind i blew the class and wanted to get out as fast as possible so please no comments on that section of the course.

So if you could nicely critique and ways to help. And please no "go back to cross rails", collect your horse. When I flat her we are collected and going nicely. The past couple months we have worked on getting around a course efficantly and now we are working on making the overall look more polished.

So overall look of our round, good things then things to work on.

Thanks! Hope I didn't limit the critiques too much lol!

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post #2 of 7 Old 05-16-2012, 08:10 PM
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I'm sure the other members will echo this thought... don't give up after a mistake and ride to get out of the class... if you want out, simply dismiss yourself rather than riding like you don't care. As a rider, you are at all times training your horse and yourself. Leave the mistake at the place it occurred and ride the rest of the course like it never happened.

That said, the thing that stands out on your rounds is your arms and when you are coming off the fence. Your elbows are constantly wiggling on approach and they seem pretty locked and stiff in front of you.

As you land off a fence, several times your hands did not follow the motion of your horse's head, causing her to yank it up. I'm not sure if this is what occurred on your dropped pole, but I def noticed it more and more after that point (I know you said to ignore that aspect, but it was a very telling aspect of your course).

If I were you, I would be working on a soft forward course, where your horse is between your hands and leg, not just in front of your leg... working on giving with your elbow, and having a more quiet arm and upper body.
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post #3 of 7 Old 05-17-2012, 09:19 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the reply, I know I rode the rest of the round badly, I was very upset with myself and I am way to hard on myself. For the last jump I was back "riding" but when I left the ring I realized I shouldn't have done that at all. It isn't over until the last fence, I was just really upset with myself for putting my horse in a bad spot. That being said I shrugged it off by the time i left the ring.

Thats interesting about the elbows, I never even noticed that. I had to look pretty hard to find it but it is there. I think what may be happening in some cases as we aproach the fence she gets excited and gets fast ( at some jumps not all ) And I'm holding her to keep the pace. But good to know I would have never caught that. It seems im flapping my wings trying to fly over the jumps lol!

Just curious by "working on giving with your elbow, and having a more quiet arm and upper body. "

What do you mean by this? Is it that I look to stiff when riding? I know what you mean by giving with your elbow over the fences and stay with the motion more but other than that I'm just not sure what you mean exactly
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I agree with MudPaint, your upper body seems to be all over the place. You tend to over-exaggerate yourself over the fence and don't have enough core strength to keep your upper body still in the air and on landing (hence the constant flinging forward onto her neck - this causes your horse to become extremely unblanced which may be why she kind of "takes off" after a jump). Now your horse may have a huge jump and your having trouble riding that, but you really need to learn to quiet your body because all your doing is yanking on your horse's mouth before, during and after the jump because you are unbalanced. I suggest yoga for core strength building. :)

I also noticed that you tend to push your horse "past" the ideal take off to the fences. 9 times out of 10, your horse is having to chip and somehow scramble out and over the jump. I'm surprised that you only got the one rail down, your were pretty tight with a lot of the jumps. Try looking for the slightly longer distance rather then the shorter one. And do lots of pole, jump, pole exercises to get your horse looking for a distance too. It seems like she just wants to plow through all of the jumps rather than go over them. Gymnastics will really help both you and her with that - you for your upper body strength and her for actually finding the jump herself.
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Thanks, well I go to the gym 6 days a week 2 1/2 hours a day and work with a personal trainer 2 of those days and do pilates classes for core strength. I've done yoga and to me it was just stretching.. not to productive for what I need.

I like to hear the critiques because it's what people on the side would be thinking but I actually thought in comparision to before my upper body is pretty still and I didn't think people viewed me as yanking on my horses face for the whole ride.

It's the second show of the year so the next one hopfully I won't look like a complete failure... I have a lesson today so we'll see how it goes. We will be doing gymnastics and more courses so I can work on being quieter with my hands and upper body

Also if anyone else comments.. when I had the original post I said "So overall look of our round, good things then things to work on "

So if there is anything good if you could let me know..... lol things I thought I did well I obvioulsy didn't! ( I thought my upper body was pretty still, [ hands need work i know } ) Always learning :)
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Sorry if my msg earlier seemed odd. My dad went in for emerg. surgery on Wed. Anyway...
So lesson yesterday ( shouldn't have rode ) went on about collecting my horse and having her pat the ground at the base of the jump. So what you guys are saying but the big issue going on is that I"m letting my horse kind of run threw my hands. ( Plow threw the jumps ) It may look like I have a hold on her but really its extreamly light. Reason for why the 6 didn't work and I let her get too close to the base of the jump.

So heres my question, I enjoy both of your critiques but we don't have gymnastics set up- I really wish we did I know how great it would be for my "feel" and to get my horse working from behind. But without those, what can I be doing to help myself and my horse get around the course more efficantly? My horse is by no means -RUNNING- threw me like you would usually think of a horse doing that but it's just enough that it makes it hard for me to bring her back without loosing the forward and that she runs past the proper distance.

Any tips and "how to" would be great, I don't mind being told what I'm doing wrong but I like to know how I can fix these things

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I also don't a large enough ring for extensive grids, but have found that just something as simple as a pole placed 9' before and after a jump can give yourself and your horse the same experience you're looking for in terms of feeling your horse jump under you while you keep your upper body quiet.

You just have to see your don't have to like it.
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