Originally Posted by ilovepets
can someone hear me out??
First off, because I know this horse and you don't (no offense) I feel like I am being ambushed on here about how its ALL my fault
but my question to you guys is: has anyone ever ridden a horse that isnt perfect? A horse that tests you because that's who they are, not because I am doing something wrong. I feel like a lot of people are going off of their image of a perfect reining horse or stereotypes of western horses that can have loose reins and neck rein, and don't need a crop or spurs to go and don't gravitate towards the barn. Not ALL westerns are like that. All horses are different!!! Some horses can neck rein but need tight reins or else they will not listen. This horse is a trail horse and while her horse buddy is gone for a few months and I can't trail ride, I have been using this time to PRACTICE cantering and working in the field. Yes I know and accept and will work on my stiffness and will work toward my goal of becoming looser in the canter. But no I will not ride with out a crop or with loose reins- that is just asking for her to buck, test and/or run back to the barn. Must I say again- every horse is different. She is great on the trails and I keep loose reins (when walking but shorten them a little when trotting) and I barely use the crop, if at all. And for future posts- I am not frustrating her!!! She does this with everyone- even a trainer!!!
No need to feel ambushed. You bravely came on here and asked for a critique (as I said before, that's an excellent step for increasing your equine knowledge). But, we aren't going to sugarcoat things, or pamper people. We'll be honest and we'll tell you what we see. It doesn't mean you are a horrible, horrible person -- not at all! But there are
things you can improve on in your riding, and we've stated those things (as you came on here asking). As I said before, I'm not a professional trainer and I'm not the best rider on earth .... but I do know a thing or two about it, as do many other folks on this board. And I know what I would do if I were riding your horse, based on what it shows in the video, although there often are two ways to get from point A to point B and you'll hear that via different opinions.
Who said their horse is perfect? No horse is perfect. They all have flaws.
But every horse has been trained to act a certain way, because of what THE RIDER
does to correct them when they drift toward the barn, or by allowing them the freedom of a loose rein (and correct them when they get out of line), or when they choose to buck, etc etc.
This would be a good thread for you to check out Every rider IS a trainer -- every time you interact with a horse
My current horse Red (who I purchased last year in May) bucked twice when I first brought him home. And he has not bucked since.
Because he learned the consequences of what happens when he bucks with me. (And I didn't need a crop or tight reins to get my point across). Horses are very smart and they learn to understand how to behave, once they know what you are asking and once they know what the "rules" are. It is the rider's responsibility to consistently show them those boundaries. And, if they stay in those boundaries, what a pleasure and joy it can be to go out on a trail ride!
Another example with my current horse Red. When I bought him, they rode him in a tie down and a twisted wire snaffle bit.
He was already very resistant to the bit and not soft at all. I imagine they also rode him in a tight rein, because he would just want to speed up like crazy when I gave him slack, and toss his head like crazy when I did give him contact. I did my best with him last summer (lots, and lots, and lots of correcting him with a loose rein and lots of time in the saddle) but didn't get to where I wanted to be with him. So he's with a reining trainer this month for 30 days. I'm not ashamed to seek help when I need it. I went and took a lesson two days ago, and he's coming along great, and the trainer showed me things I can do to keep him soft. I will continue to take a few more lessons with her, before I bring him home and continue on myself.
What you are explaining (when you say some horses can neck rein, and some horses need a tight rein) is the difference between a horse who has been trained well, and a horse who has not.
Your horse has not. But it is not a bad thing, because everyone has to start somewhere. But by giving your horse the opportunity to have a loose rein now, is what you need to do if you ever want to progress to have a horse that neck reins. We're not saying your horse is going to neck rein this day, but we are trying to give you advice so that down the road, you'll have a much more willing companion who will neck rein nicely in the future. But you've got to start giving her slack now, or you'll never get there.
Which as some people have said (and I have eluded to as well), is so what? So what if you direct rein your horse all your life, and ride on a tight rein all your life? There's lots of people that do that, and lots of people that enjoy their time in the saddle that way. But there's a way to do things, and a correct
way to do things. What you choose to do with it, are up to you. But you will find yourself surrounded by lots of folks on this board who want to do things the correct
way, and we've expressed our opinions to you, just like you asked.
And I already said it earlier -- if your trainer doesn't know what to do with this horse, then you need to find a new trainer.
And yes, you are frustrating your horse. Check out that picture that someone posted where you legs are braced forward, you are leaning back, pulling on her mouth, yet asking her to lope. This is 100% confusing to her. If a horse is confused, they are frustrated because they do not understand. Hence she bucks, pins her ears, and does everything to evade you possible.