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        12-18-2009, 05:56 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    Yeah, I think they he was so tense was because he hasnt used those muscles in a year or more!
    By the way, the tom-thumb he is in a short shank and is just a normal snaffle (with shanks of course). I would never put him in a curb, as he has a soft mouth and rides best in a soft bit.
         
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        12-18-2009, 06:16 PM
      #12
    Weanling
    The short shank snaffle IS A CURB BIT. Many times the curb bits with a snaffle mouthpiece (like the one you are referring to) are more harsh than a curb bit that has a port.

    When you transition to a curb bit, look for these kind of curb bits: correction, spoon, or reiner. Look for something with swivel shanks and a mouthpiece that has action (not a solid mouthpiece with no movement).

    A curb bit is not harsh if you select the right one & learn how to use it properly.
         
        12-18-2009, 06:27 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GottaRide    
    The short shank snaffle IS A CURB BIT. Many times the curb bits with a snaffle mouthpiece (like the one you are referring to) are more harsh than a curb bit that has a port.

    When you transition to a curb bit, look for these kind of curb bits: correction, spoon, or reiner. Look for something with swivel shanks and a mouthpiece that has action (not a solid mouthpiece with no movement).

    A curb bit is not harsh if you select the right one & learn how to use it properly.
    Yeah, someone insisted on putting a bit like that in Bear's mouth, he HATED it. He did best in the normal snaffle (w/ no shanks), then he did second best in the tom-thumb.
    I have always been told that tom-thumbs are one of the kindest western bits (with shanks), when in the right hands, like any bit. Have I been told wrong?
         
        12-18-2009, 06:38 PM
      #14
    Showing
    Since you are electing to go with the broken mouth, might I suggest you look for one with a myler/billy allen mouth, just to avoid the nutcracker effect compounded by the shanks. Really, a TT isn't that soft of a bit, especially since he doesn't go on loose reins yet. Does he neck rein? If not, I certainly wouldn't put him in a TT. But then again, that is just MHO. If you have tried it and he does well, then don't change him up.

    Not getting on your butt here, just trying to help figure out what would work best for Bear. Also, the shorter the shanks are, the milder it will be.

    Billy Allen Bits

    I really like the one with the gold chevrons about 1/3 the way down, if only the shanks were shorter.
         
        12-18-2009, 06:42 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    In the right hands, a tom thumb can be direct reined, but I don't usually recommend it to people and wouldn't use one myself.

    The problem is, when some people direct rein with a tom thumb they're also pulling on the poll of the horse and pinching the tongue of the horse with the bit. Never a good combination.

    Like GottaRide, I would recommend going to a reining bit instead of a tom thumb. I personally like the looks of this bit: ETA: With a bit shorter of a shank for you.

    Pro-Craft Reining Bit with Roller - Horse.com


    Personally, I ride in a bit something like this (with a slightly lower port):

    Silver Aluminum Precision Spring Show Bit 8 3/4in Cheeks - Horse.com
         
        12-18-2009, 06:47 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smrobs    

    Billy Allen Bits

    I really like the one with the gold chevrons about 1/3 the way down, if only the shanks were shorter.
    I hate you for posting that link, now I think I've found ANOTHER Christmas present for Java... The Calvary Shank at the bottom looks like it might work well with my heavy reins for finesse work. But that California Shank wouldn't be bad for a new daily bit... hmmm.
         
        12-18-2009, 06:55 PM
      #17
    Showing
    Haha! I just took a good look at that California shank after I had already posted and by the time I decided to mention it, my edit time had passed. I really like that one too but the only problem I notice is that it looks like it would pinch their lips . They basic idea is virtually identical to the Myler bit line but Billy Allen is an old friend of mine so I would buy his long before I would buy myler.
         
        12-18-2009, 07:02 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    As of right now, Bear does NOT know how to neck rein, and I wont be switching him into a bit with shanks until he can neck rein. Well, I wouldnt say that he can't as of right now, he just doesnt totally get it, so I normally use leg when I neck rein him (I normally use leg to help my horse turn anyways), which seems to help. I have been practicing it while warming up and cooling down english too.

    Any tips on how to help him learn to neck rein?

    To mods:
    (( Sorry for letting this thread wonder a bit))

    To smrobs:
    Nutcracker effect? You lost me a bit, hehe. I am not sure how short of a shank is legal in shows, but I am going for the shortest shank I can get away with. Are the bits you showed me legal at shows? Do you think a bit with rollers would be a good idea?
         
        12-18-2009, 07:05 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    Are the reining bits legal in 4H, western pleasure, and western eq.? On this bit (Pro-Craft Reining Bit with Roller - Horse.com) why does it have a chain going across the bottom of it? Where the bit at the bottom of this page (Billy Allen Bits) does not.
         
        12-18-2009, 07:09 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    Sorry off topic but I'm sure in beginner classes and green horse classes you can ride in a snaffle or a curb regardless of the horse's age. That's what its like at my shows, but I don't know if its the same over there.
         

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