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        06-09-2009, 08:11 AM
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    What can I improve??

         
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        06-09-2009, 08:22 AM
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    One thing that really jumps out to me is that you ask him to go and kick him on but than yank back on his face at the same time. Especially when you're pumping your arms at the beginning. It's sending very confusing messages to your horse. No offense but the whole video makes me wince because all I can see if you yanking on his face. You can tell he's unhappy about it because of how he keeps throwing his head up, he's trying to tell you that he's uncomfortable.
         
        06-09-2009, 09:33 AM
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    Weanling
    You're yanking on his mouth and kicking him at the same time. You also smacked him a lot. Your horse is good and it doesn't look like there is any need to hit him if he responds to you kicking him. This is just a theory, I don't know if this will work, but sometimes western riders, like barrel racers, pole benders and such, when they come around a turn (to the left for a better example) will pull the right rein over the horse's neck and pull with the left rein also. I don't think bits that have shanks are ment to be pulled with that left rein (back to example). So does anyone have an idea is a snaffle bit would work better than a bit w/ a shank? I don't know and the question is kind of hard to explain.
         
        06-09-2009, 10:59 AM
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    Green Broke
    I also agreed with the yanking on his mouth and kicking him.

    Find a good place on your reigns that are loose, and instead of yanking in his mouth, find a place on his mane to grab. Heels down, and you really don't need to smack him because kicking hard enough hurts, you don't need both.
         
        06-09-2009, 11:56 AM
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    Okay wow was not expecting that. Well to clear the water a bit. I need to keep contact on the bit with him by sending little signals(hense the arm pumping) because if I pull back to keep contact he will obviously slow down so im giving him his head but also letting him know I am still there or he will loose focus. Also when I have to pull back hard before a turn and he throws his head up he kinda has no brakes when we run towards the gate so if I don't pull back hard he runs through the bit. The bit I have in his mouth is not a severe bit. I am going to be trying a snaffle over the summer when we work on jumping so I can see how he does with it gaming. Also my whip is not a whip it is a piece of very soft cotton that my friend hand braided for me it's just a little boost I would NEVER hurt my horse and I whipped myself with that thing coutless times becasue if it hurt me I was not going to use it on my horse.Also I only used it twice and the second time didn't connect. And I don't kick hard it looks like I am in the vid because I need to raise my stirrups so my legs hang to low and I wasn't making contact. Also if it hurt him he would associate the bit and riding as a bad thing but as soon as I show him his bridle he gets excited and starts to dance ears up and follows me around then he drops his head and takes his bit like a treat(i never trained him to take it that well he does it on his own)Also if you notice sometimes (at least where I ride and they are trained gaming horses) when someone pulls back to turn the horse they shake and throw their head a bit.
         
        06-09-2009, 12:47 PM
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    Contact does not mean pulling on him. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but with every stride it seemed that you were pulling back on him. I only game for fun and have never really done more than a few summers of it when I used to go up to a friend's ranch in Georgia, and I am certainly not that wonderful at it. I know I'm doing a different pattern than you but the concept is the same. I have contact with my horse's mouth but at the same time I am not pulling back on him. I don't know if this will help at all but here's a video of me doing a pattern. There's a lot that I need to work on but the point is that you can have contact and still not be yanking at him.

    http://www.myyearbook.com/?mysession...9pZD0zMDAxOQ==
         
        06-09-2009, 01:50 PM
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    Showing
    Your horse is very cute!
    First off, I would suggest some flat lessons for yourself. I see a lot of imbalance on your horse, and that is translating to confusion for your horse.
    The first few seconds of the video showed a lot. Your seat is not moving with your horse, your back is stiff and that's making you bounce around in the saddle. This isn't very comfortable for your horse - try relaxing your back and really moving your pelvis with your saddle, and think about sinking into those heels.

    Your legs are not solid, which works its way all up your body. See how they swing around a lot? Not just when you're kicking, but when you're trying to balance as well. A solid leg will really help all facets of your riding. I suggest lots of no-stirrup work and see if you can get an instructor to give you a few lunge lessons.

    Now, about your hands - they are very rough and unforgiving. You are catching your horse in the mouth and that is not a good thing. I really do suggest you buddy up with an instructor who can really go back over the basics with you. Do you see him flipping his head all over the place? That's when you're catching him in the mouth and he's trying to tell you he doesn't like it.
    I think a lot of your hands has to do with your unsteady seat and leg.
    Contact is when you keep a feel of the horse's mouth but you do not interfere with the horse's mouth, you are not accomplishing that at the moment.

    When you can work WITH your horse, that's when your runs will start to improve.
         
        06-09-2009, 01:56 PM
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    I'm sorry, but that looked painful. You have a VERY patient horse. You are slamming on his back, kicking him, and yanking on his mouth. You need to sit straight, keep your hand quiet and keep you legs still.
         
        06-09-2009, 02:55 PM
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    Weanling
    Im going to have to agree with the previous posters. I understand needing to keep contact or he gets unfocused. I need that with my arab. If I let the reins go completely slack he stops listening. But, like someone above said, there's a difference between contact and yanking. And you are yanking and it doesn't look like you're doing it intentionally or anything. To me, it looks like you're off balance when he's moving so quickly and so to steady yourself you use your hands. But that's not fair to him. Try doing some no stirrup or bareback work to strengthen your core and legs so you can keep youself balanced without having to pull on his face. I think this will also help with his turns. You said he has issues balancing. Well it looks like that's bc he doesn't have a chance to lower his head. Many horses need to lower their head to reorient themselves around turns so try actually giving a little around turns but maintaining leg pressure so he knows that he needs to move into the turn, not just slow down. I hope that helps
         
        06-09-2009, 02:56 PM
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    Foal
    JustDressageIt said it all.
    Your horse is very forgiving.
    Mine would have dead stopped, reared and probably fall over on me if I ever pulled that much on her mouth.
         

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