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post #11 of 16 Old 09-02-2011, 08:52 AM
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I always get very suspicious when a seller says that a horse is schooling more than one level above where it is showing. He's not a horrible horse, but he is absolutely not (correctly) schooling second level anything. If they actually are attempting to school second level movements with him, I would worry that you would have a lot of incorrect training to undo.

I see what everyone else is seeing with him short-striding behind, but he also looks to me like he may be a bit back sore.
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post #12 of 16 Old 09-04-2011, 12:20 AM
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post #13 of 16 Old 09-04-2011, 01:49 AM
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ya know, he seems better in the second video, though he doesn't reach far under himself in canter. I do like him , though. Overall, he looks like a nice hrose. Perhaps you could ride him yourself. AND, I would have a very thorough vet prepurchase exam. But I like him. He is a warmblood?

I shall look at the others. I am in Washington state, too, BTW.

We cannot make nearly as good a judge of this horse via a video as you can be meeting him and havig a vet exam and a ride, so take our opinions in stride.


DxD mentions sore back. This thing with him shortstriding might be improved with chiropractic.
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post #14 of 16 Old 09-04-2011, 02:50 AM Thread Starter
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Well, I rode him. I completely love his personality, so willing and intelligent, also very personable. A bit of a cuddlier!

He also paddles with his right front a little, but she said that her vet was not concerned about it as it's so slight.

He's certainly not schooling what's being advertised, though. Not second level, anyways. It's because for this reason I don't feel comfortable buying him at her price (and she's firm at her price), so we parted with me offering my top offer, and she'll contact me if she changes her mind in the future. If she agrees in the future to my price (if she hasn't sold him), I will bring in my coach, and then the vet exam if my coach likes him.

But he was a lovely horse! I certainly fell in love with him. He is an andalusian/dutch warmblood cross.
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post #15 of 16 Old 09-06-2011, 09:26 AM
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I am late getting on here (no video viewing at home on dial up on the weekend) but here is what I get from the vids.

First of all I did notice that he paddles in front. For dressage this is more cosmetic than unsound (it is unsound in racehorses.. or can lead to being unsound). Second, he has a very STRONG coupling from his back to his croup along with relatively high hock. This limits his stride behind. It is simple mechanics.. not necessarily unsound.

In the first video he is being over ridden resulting in him being over the bit. You want to avoid putting a horse over the bit (nose tucked, face not vertical). A horse regularly over the bit can be VERY hard to fix. He is short strided in that video from the way he is being ridden AND his mechanics.

In the second video he is poking his nose out and is not being asked to reach with his rear legs while taking weight off his forehand. So.. he is going along. When he is asked to reach under himself he runs into his own mechanics.

Could he go 3rd level? Probably.. most horses can. Can he go higher? Probably not.. needs lower set to his hocks and different angles back there. Is he a bad horse? NOT at ALL.

I suggest you try to find conformation shots of the really great dressage horses and then compare those to the prospects you look at.

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post #16 of 16 Old 09-06-2011, 12:16 PM
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Well, I rode him. I completely love his personality, so willing and intelligent, also very personable. A bit of a cuddlier!

He also paddles with his right front a little, but she said that her vet was not concerned about it as it's so slight.

He's certainly not schooling what's being advertised, though. Not second level, anyways. It's because for this reason I don't feel comfortable buying him at her price (and she's firm at her price), so we parted with me offering my top offer, and she'll contact me if she changes her mind in the future. If she agrees in the future to my price (if she hasn't sold him), I will bring in my coach, and then the vet exam if my coach likes him.

But he was a lovely horse! I certainly fell in love with him. He is an andalusian/dutch warmblood cross.
Very smart move, teamfire. I wish you luck on your horse search!
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