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post #11 of 43 Old 04-13-2010, 09:11 AM
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I think your other horse is taking his food :)
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post #12 of 43 Old 04-13-2010, 09:29 AM Thread Starter
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watching him move would give more of an idea on dressage. If he under himself or strung out? Muscling can change a horse drastically. I would like to see him in better condition in the growing stage he is too thin for my taste and needs lots of nutrition while growing.
Thank you! I'll try to get some photos or a video of him on the lungeline - no small task since I'm the one who lunges him! hahah. He will do both a nicely collected trot and a nicely extended trot on the lungeline, as well as a real nice canter (though I minimize how much he canters on the lunge right now because he's young yet). He really carries himself nicely for his age and seems to be driving well from his hind end.

As far as his condition, I took him off the growth formula at 8 months at my vets request because he was concerned about him carrying too much weight while he is growing. That being said, this week I have started working him back up on a mix of Safechoice and the growth formula with a little weightbuilder added in - now that spring is here he is being worked with almost every day. He has always had free choice hay, all he wants at any time, as well as full run of 6 acres of grass pasture 24/7 (though for three months over the winter he was stalled at night). None of the horses ever have to compete with each other for feeding :)

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I can't say how suitable he would be for dressage but he is a mighty fine looking baby. I would give it a shot regardless and just see how well he does. He might suprise you and be really good and even if he isn't, he would still be very well trained.

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WOW he's all legs! Gorgeous, too! I'm not sure of his coloring....He has minimal signs of his Paint heritage (the back stockings, the splotch on his belly) but right now I would pinpoint him as a dark bay maybe? Hard to tell with Paint crosses
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Oh, yeah and as for color. I agree with the PP, I would probably call him a dark or black bay.

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He is certainly worth growing out and watching. What I see currently is his hind pastern angles are a bit vertical and in these type of breeds can lead to a lot of concussion into his foot leading to bone spurring. His croup angle is a bit severe and it may change some but I would like to see the dam and sire.
His shoulder angle appears a bit straight for my taste and this leads to a stabby type /heavy gait on the front end as they grow but you don't have a true lateral/side view of him. Both pics are a bit angled and so may give a false impression of his true angle. It is also difficult to see the neck to back length which would give you a better idea of a horse who is more likely to accept the bit and engage his hind end. (easier to get to work because he can carry himself better) Shorter necked horses can have a more difficult time bending and accepting the bit without going beyond vertical. Also and this may be a growth spurt issue his front knee joints to hock joints are lower in the front and can lead to imbalance and heavy on front end but he may grow out of this as well. So many things change over the course of his growth but at this time, I would like to see a video of his movement and conformation and pics of dam and sire. Yes all horses can do dressage and flat work some more easily than others but he looks like a love . Good luck with him and enjoy each day as he grows.
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First off I too think he is pretty darn cute. My first thought was also, 'wow, those are some long legs'.
As you have already stated, things can change, a lot.
To me he looks like he has draft horse type conformation. Strong shoulder, weaker back end. Vertical shoulder and pasterns. All great for pulling, not so great for pushing from behind, which is what you need for dressage.

He sure is a cutey.... with a sweet face.
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I underatand over feeding and causing problems but I have never given any babies a growth formula so not sure whay that is given especially if a horse is large it does not need help growing?? does it? If they grow too fast I know that can cause problems But a balanced diet and vitamins are essential for strong growth. I would not canter a draft on a lunge line until at least 3. they keep growing until 5-6 yrs of age.
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I think you're doing fine as far as the lunging and feeding. Draft babies tend to get ribby then shoot up, then get fat for a while and then get ribby and shoot up. They seem like they never stop growing! As long as you are lunging him for 30 minutes or less and on a big 20-30 meter circle that will help to condition him without putting undue stress on his joints. Also, you could pony him behind your other horses on short trail rides. The exercise of lunging isn't the problem it's the repetition of constantly loading the joints of one side in a continual circle for long periods of time that create problems. That being said...lunge line yearlings at futurities w/t/c and generally have no lasting health problems from it. You just need to be careful not to overdo one side and to keep the sessions short.

As far as confo. The only "faults" for dressage are that he looks slightly steep in the shoulder, he has a pretty sharp croup and he seems to stand with his hocks behind him a little bit. All part of his draft heritage. That being said you can overcome a weak "draft butt" with conditioning, hill work and lunging in side reins once he is mature and the shoulder will probably angle a little more as he grows. Most yearlings appear straighter than they are when they mature because their legs are so long and their bodies are so compact. Once they start to expand in every direction as 2-3 year olds their angles tend to "lay down" a bit and relax. All in all...you know I want to steal him!! And he's definitely adorable. And as far as color I think he's going to be some kind of tri-color dark bay paint.
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The draft babies I have had experience with were never ribby.
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